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RayzorIsDull said:
We are less than a year from Matthews being nominated for the Selke. So a year ago he was viewed as one of the best defensive forwards and now he isn't close?
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Seems interesting that one year it is marner then it is Matthews.

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Can't find Tavares though ... would benefit any player, including Nylander to play with a Selke candidate.

And the sky looks blue, and water often feels wet.
 
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It’s interesting. His 1st goal was a great snipe, and his second he showed some real hustle. He had 5 points in the elimination games compared to Tavares 1 point. With all this, this is what Torontobased podcast say:

”Easy goal, Ullmark must have that. It was a bad shot on a bad goalie”.

”Tavares was, by far, the best forward in this series”

”Wow, M&M&N had a point in the last game, wow. They all showed up equally”.

Fan calls in and thinks that Nylander should be given more credit. The answer: ”Sure”.

No wonder some have a weird perception of Nylander in Ontario
 
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therealkoho said:
As of right now, I'm actually a little in awe of Will. Do you remember how he was absolutely crushed by Kleven on the right half-wall? I replayed that moment over 4 or 5 times, and what I noticed was Will looking up at him as he went shoulders first into the boards. I hate those hits as it's usually one you feel even the next day.

What the real point is though, is how Will gathered himself off the ice, located Kleven with the puck heading in the opposite direction around the net. Will, showing lots of flash and dash, went after Klevin cross ice and crashed all 6'5" and 225lbs of him into the boards and ended up on top. I don't think Will hurt him, but he did surprise him. I'm hoping this gives Will the confidence to do this in future, it's a good arrow to have in the quiver and maybe a nice one to surprise a guy like Forsling, Boqvist, Kulikov or even Eckblad with, you never know they might just start chasing Will and getting them off their game.
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Good catch, I didn't think anyone else caught that hit.
 
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RayzorIsDull said:
We are less than a year from Matthews being nominated for the Selke. So a year ago he was viewed as one of the best defensive forwards and now he isn't close?
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You’re missing the calculus.

When part of the season does the Selke reflect in its determination?
 
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KAWAIlllI said:
It’s interesting. His 1st goal was a great snipe, and his second he showed some real hustle. He had 5 points in the elimination games compared to Tavares 1 point. With all this, this is what Torontobased podcast say:

”Easy goal, Ullmark must have that. It was a bad shot on a bad goalie”.

”Tavares was, by far, the best forward in this series”

”Wow, M&M&N had a point in the last game, wow. They all showed up equally”.

Fan calls in and thinks that Nylander should be given more credit. The answer: ”Sure”.

No wonder some have a weird perception of Nylander in Ontario
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Nylander is the only player capable of beating the goalie straight up with Matthews injured.

Yet that was a bad shot. Lmao, no one else on the Leafs can do that "Bad shot" right now.
 
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therealkoho said:
As of right now, I'm actually a little in awe of Will. Do you remember how he was absolutely crushed by Kleven on the right half wall. I replayed that moment over 4 or 5 times, and what I noticed is Will looking up at him as he went shoulders first into the boards. I hate those hits as it's usually one you feel even the next day.

What the real point is though, is how Will gathered himself off the ice, located Kleven with the puck heading in the opposite direction around the net. Will showing lots of flash and dash went after Klevin cross ice and crashed all 6'5" and 225lbs of him into the boards and ended up on top. I don't think Will hurt him, but he did surprise him. I'm hoping this gives Will the confidence to do this in future, it's a good arrow to have in the quiver and maybe a nice one to surprise a guy like Forsling, Boqvist, Kulikov or even Eckblad with, you never know they might just start chasing Will and getting them off their game.
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Nice one, saw that too. He has mucked it up in the scrums this playoffs as well and it looked like he actually knew what he was doing. Great stuff, it's not the juniors ya know.
 
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ITM said:
Buddy, your projection is only dwarfed by your prejudice.

Your rhetoric and ridicule is what’s cringe.
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You came at me with 10 paragraphs in a condescending manner because I said Matthews has been a better overall player in the playoffs, starting with the uninformed opinion that Matthews hasn’t improved defensively from earlier in his career. The way you attack someone for having a different opinion when yours are so obviously wrong makes it hard to respond seriously to. Chill out my dude, people have different opinions and it’s not that serious. 🤣
 
How about this, let’s call a truce and get ready to defeat Florida here. I don’t have any interest fueding with fellow fans over nonsense like this. We should just feel lucky we have both players.
 
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sunstersun said:
Nylander is the only player capable of beating the goalie straight up with Matthews injured.

Yet that was a bad shot. Lmao, no one else on the Leafs can do that "Bad shot" right now.
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This is why our offense always drys up in elimination games, we don’t have enough players who can really shoot the puck.
 
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sunstersun said:
Nylander is the only player capable of beating the goalie straight up with Matthews injured.

Yet that was a bad shot. Lmao, no one else on the Leafs can do that "Bad shot" right now.
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I certainty wouldn't call that a bad shot. Perfectly placed to go just over the pad and under the glove/arm, which is exactly what they teach players now. When shooting from distance, you want to aim either there or under the crossbar. Quite a lot of goals are scored there.
 
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authentic said:
This is why our offense always drys up in elimination games, we don’t have enough players who can really shoot the puck.
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Yet we think we should take a portion of the pie and give it to someone who wants to pass the pucc into the net and there’s guys on here that think since he sets up a scoring chance it should be a goal a lot easier to leave it up to someone else to do the heavy lifting
 
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authentic said:
You came at me with 10 paragraphs in a condescending manner because I said Matthews has been a better overall player in the playoffs, starting with the uninformed opinion that Matthews hasn’t improved defensively from earlier in his career. The way you attack someone for having a different opinion when yours are so obviously wrong makes it hard to respond seriously to. Chill out my dude, people have different opinions and it’s not that serious. 🤣
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Wrong.

You came at me FIRST with a condescending post: #2996.

So again…This isn’t me “attacking” you. It’s defending my opinion. Because when you FIRST reply to someone who hasn’t replied to you, and ridicule their opinion, that’s the instigation, not the reply clarifying the opinion.

And like your inverse order of provocative posts, or dismissal of Nylander’s better numbers, or your comrade’s appeal to regular season play awards, my argument, like my memory, is the better between us.
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Matthews is supposed to be the best player and he’s paid like it but he has not played like it. That’s my opinion backed by a lifetime of being a hockey fan/ Leafs fan, but more importantly backed by data. It doesn’t have to accord with your strong preferences, but your strong preferences don’t change the data or the gathering concern for Matthews apparent inability to lead this team commensurate with the mandate his contract demands.

And for the record, I take online engagement seriously because that’s how people with integrity behave. Makes no difference to me that you find acting in good faith to be a joke. But if you can’t remember when you start something, can’t support your arguments with substance, but constantly appeal to ridicule, you’re obviously in no position to voice complaint for being held accountable for your opinion.

If a few minutes of reading and nuance is a heavy lift, just remain hidden like your two pals did when asked to account with precise questions.

I gain nothing by making peace with someone so obviously belligerent. I mean if it’s really not that serious to you, it’s not worth responding to let alone ridiculing, let alone ridiculing without an actual argument.

Enjoy your playoffs and whatever sub-hobby your form of pub crawl communication provides.
 
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