William Nylander

That is the never ending false narrative from Leafs fans but it isn’t true.

He’s a liability defensively while they are both well above average, and they have both out produced him offensively over their careers.
In the last 5 seasons, he has more goals than Marner and more assists than Matthews, in almost identical ES and PP ice time but with lesser linemates (which has also affected his defensive stats).

12th in goals and 14th in points in the entire league over that time.

The biggest "false narrative" is that linemates shouldn't be considered, and that playing with the best scorer in the league and the best LW on the team isn't an advantage.
 
Nice those are some horrible plays can you possibly go to the other threads and show the other core 3 members I wanna see all of their disgusting plays over the last couple years or are we just gonna stop with Willy?
Not my post. If I find others of the core I’ll post it as well.

However I’m not the creator of any of these posts.
 
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Not my post. If I find others of the core I’ll post it as well.

However I’m not the creator of any of these posts.
But you posted a very selective few seconds of play from hours of playoff ice time with no context or comparative information.

Do you think that's reasonable?

I've seen things on line that proport to prove the would is flat. As Plato said, not everything on the internet is gospel.

Probaby the worst thing about the internet is that you tend to find whatever supports your preconceived opinions.
 
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But you posted a very selective few seconds of play from hours of playoff ice time with no context or comparative information.

Do you think that's reasonable?

I've seen things on line that proport to prove the would is flat. As Plato said, not everything on the internet is gospel.

Probaby the worst thing about the internet is that you tend to find whatever supports your preconceived opinions.
My guy.

It’s not my content.
 
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I don't know how this guy escapes critism all the time
Has 1 goal that's on 5-3. Took a dumb penalty in game 2 or 3 that cost us a goal
Gave the puck away that led to the short handed goal in game 4
Didn't even bother making an effort in 2 on 1 last game when Matthews the pass to Sens

Sure he made that one pass to OEL and points per game. But dude just needs to do more

Other players dont' mail it in because they make one good plays per game., It's a 60 min game, 2 shifts doesn't mean sh** to me
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and I dont' care what you did last year. This is what have you done for me leauge

Drop that goal chain kiddo. TIme to step up
Go ahead, make me look stupid, make me eat my crow
 
I don't know how this guy escapes critism all the time
Has 1 goal that's on 5-3. Took a dumb penalty in game 2 or 3 that cost us a goal
Gave the puck away that led to the short handed goal in game 4
Didn't even bother making an effort in 2 on 1 last game when Matthews the pass to Sens

Sure he made that one pass to OEL and points per game. But dude just needs to do more

Other players dont' mail it in because they make one good plays per game., It's a 60 min game, 2 shifts doesn't mean sh** to me
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and I dont' care what you did last year. This is what have you done for me leauge

Drop that goal chain kiddo. TIme to step up
Go ahead, make me look stupid, make me eat my crow
I'd still take Willy and his extremely casual playstyle which can still result in him being productive, over the 16/34 annual disappearing act.

Even when he's not on, I still have hope/belief that Nylander can make something happen.

It was incredible watching 16 and 34 hop over the boards time and time again knowing that they weren't going to accomplish anything for the next 30-40 seconds, only to skate off.
 
I'd still take Willy and his extremely casual playstyle which can still result in him being productive, over the 16/34 annual disappearing act.

Even when he's not on, I still have hope/belief that Nylander can make something happen.

It was incredible watching 16 and 34 hop over the boards time and time again knowing that they weren't going to accomplish anything for the next 30-40 seconds, only to skate off.
Yes Willy can change da game because of his speed and skating .. when he wants to .. Mitch and Matty can't keep up so their only hot at effectiveness is PP and PK .. common Willy just 1 game where you LEAD da TEAM all across da ice everywhere .. you will be da HERO of TO forever if you make it happen .. please Willy please make it happen .. thank you in advance
 
I'd still take Willy and his extremely casual playstyle which can still result in him being productive, over the 16/34 annual disappearing act.

Even when he's not on, I still have hope/belief that Nylander can make something happen.

It was incredible watching 16 and 34 hop over the boards time and time again knowing that they weren't going to accomplish anything for the next 30-40 seconds, only to skate off.

That's great.i don't care what 16 and 34 are doing. This is willy's thread

Two things can be true in life. Yes they have to perform well and so does willy. They are not mutually exclusive

I made my point about Auston on the other thread. This is a classic way people defend player but trashing others
 
That's great.i don't care what 16 and 34 are doing. This is willy's thread

Two things can be true in life. Yes they have to perform well and so does willy. They are not mutually exclusive

I made my point about Auston on the other thread. This is a classic way people defend player but trashing others
Agreed, it makes no sense. :thumbu:

We need One Way Willie at his best every shift, every night. Not when he feels like it.
 
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That's great.i don't care what 16 and 34 are doing. This is willy's thread

Two things can be true in life. Yes they have to perform well and so does willy. They are not mutually exclusive

I made my point about Auston on the other thread. This is a classic way people defend player but trashing others
Fair enough - not defending any of them, just saying that there's value in Nylander that isn't quite there with some of the others.
 
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Agreed, it makes no sense. :thumbu:

We need One Way Willie at his best every shift, every night. Not when he feels like it.
Considering you can't name one single player in the entire NHL that's at his best every shift, this is a really dumb thing to say

There are times when Nylander does things that make him look really bad. But he does so many good things than I've learned to just live with it. Most important IMHO is that unlike M&M, he doesn't fade away in the biggest games and for me anyway, that makes it easy to live with his WTF moments.
 
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I don't know how this guy escapes critism all the time
Has 1 goal that's on 5-3. Took a dumb penalty in game 2 or 3 that cost us a goal
Gave the puck away that led to the short handed goal in game 4
Didn't even bother making an effort in 2 on 1 last game when Matthews the pass to Sens

Sure he made that one pass to OEL and points per game. But dude just needs to do more

Other players dont' mail it in because they make one good plays per game., It's a 60 min game, 2 shifts doesn't mean sh** to me
'
and I dont' care what you did last year. This is what have you done for me leauge

Drop that goal chain kiddo. TIme to step up
Go ahead, make me look stupid, make me eat my crow
Besides most of this being untrue, nice work.
 

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