Value of: William Karlsson

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Now this would only happen if Vegas wanted to go after Marner.

But seeing as Vegas is Vegas and going after Star players is what they do, I fully expect them to go after Marner and if they move Karlsson they could.

What's his value

 

[hangman005]

Exactly the same as last weeks thread and the week befores.

Vegas would be stupid to move Karlsson, Still and effective player both on and off the puck and on an extremely team friendly deal.

So fair value.... and then some.

 

[Hale The Villain]

They only got a 3rd for Smith when dealing him for cap space but given the lack of quality centers available and the desperate demand for them, I would expect them to get a 2nd at least if they decided to trade Karlsson.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

They only got a 3rd for Smith when dealing him for cap space but given the lack of quality centers available and the desperate demand for them, I would expect them to get a 2nd at least if they decided to trade Karlsson.

That's something I would absolutely do if I was a team with a 2nd rounder, and had cap space, and needed a 3rd line center

 

[majormajor]

They only got a 3rd for Smith when dealing him for cap space but given the lack of quality centers available and the desperate demand for them, I would expect them to get a 2nd at least if they decided to trade Karlsson.

A 1st at least. Karlsson has more advantages over Smith beyond just being a center. He's a two-way beast.

 

[Captain97]

If the Knights need cap space to sign Marner I'd definitely want my team to offer a 1st for Karlsson. Still an excellent 2C.

 

[Benstheman]

Habs offer 1st + B prospect

 

[Bizz]

any team offering a 1st+ Vegas should just auto accept and laugh all the way to the bank.

 

[Quatre Vingt Treize]

Habs offer 1st + B prospect

He likely has Montreal on his no trade list

 

[SirPaste]

If he is made available I would expect the Blues to be calling for sure

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

If he is made available I would expect the Blues to be calling for sure

I would expect 31 teams to at least call.

If you aren't calling on him you aren't doing your job.

 

[MajorLeaf]

Don’t see Karlsson being traded as the number one priority is to extend Eichel this off season and not sign Marner.

Vegas would look at trying to trade Pietrangelo and/or Hague’s RFA rights for a winger in the $4 million or less range instead of Marner. It makes more sense for Vegas based on cap situation and Eichel extension.

 

[Miller Time]

any team offering a 1st+ Vegas should just auto accept and laugh all the way to the bank.

What makes you say that?

Nelson, as a rental (who is older and was less effective than Karlsson in these playoffs) went for a 1st, 3rd AND Colorado's top prospect.

arguably they've been relatively similar impact-wise over the past few seasons, perhaps a slight edge to Nelson albeit affected by their respective C roster depth/role.

Weird that you'd expect Vegas to value Karlsson far less than the market values C's with his skill set.

 

[FerrisRox]

If he is made available I would expect the Blues to be calling for sure

Tossed salads and scrambled eggs?

 

[SirPaste]

Tossed salads and scrambled eggs?

Sure

 

[AvroArrow]

Wait I thought Marner sucked and is a confirmed playoff choker, why does Vegas want him ?

 

[The Duck Knight]

Wait I thought Marner sucked and is a confirmed playoff choker, why does Vegas want him ?

I doubt they actually do. Just don't see how they can make it happen without making the team worse as a whole. I personally just think it's a nice media driven talking point. And then they can also sell Leaf fans the idea they can get a guy like Karlsson out of it.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Don’t see Karlsson being traded as the number one priority is to extend Eichel this off season and not sign Marner.

Vegas would look at trying to trade Pietrangelo and/or Hague’s RFA rights for a winger in the $4 million or less range instead of Marner. It makes more sense for Vegas based on cap situation and Eichel extension.

Rickard Rakell, 1m retained (4mAAV for next three seasons) for a 1st and rights to Hague? I'd do that.

 

[cheesymc]

If the Knights go after Marner, they would have to likely trade Karlsson and Hague (since McNabb has a NTC). I can see them going for it because they are an aggressive organization and they have the tax advantages of a Florida team to continually have a competitive team.

Perhaps Karlsson would need to be swapped for another player that needs a change of scenery. Cole Sillinger or a Kirby Dach + 2nd round pick or prospect. Vegas would need to have conviction that they can turn one of those types around to justify the Marner upgrade. Unless they think they can sign a UFA that would take a big discount to win... It could be a risky move since Karlsson is a good 2-way 2nd line center, but they do a good job finding value.

 

[Chainshot]

Tossed salads and scrambled eggs?

Frasier deep cut there. Well played.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Rickard Rakell, 1m retained (4mAAV for next three seasons) for a 1st and rights to Hague? I'd do that.

Vegas doesn't have a 1st til 2027 and I wouldn't risk trading that as it could end up being a lottery pick. I'd do Hague and a 2nd.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Vegas doesn't have a 1st til 2027 and I wouldn't risk trading that as it could end up being a lottery pick. I'd do Hague and a 2nd.

Yikes on the 1sts. F them picks, right?

I want Hague, and I'm willing to pay a little more than the 2nd round offer sheet compensation for him. I'm not sure 2 2nds is enough for 3 years of Rakell at 4m though.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Yikes on the 1sts. F them picks, right?

I mean yeah. I don't give a flying %#$# about late 1sts nor should any team that is serious about winning. Ask Florida right now how much they miss all the futures they've traded. They don't. Realistically though the true window for the Knights is probably closed already unless there is a miracle this offseason. Just too much age/injury related decline. Moving the 27 1st is probably not smart because of that.

 

[DesertPenguin]

I mean yeah. I don't give a flying %#$# about late 1sts nor should any team that is serious about winning. Ask Florida right now how much they miss all the futures they've traded. They don't. Realistically though the true window for the Knights is probably closed already unless there is a miracle this offseason. Just too much age/injury related decline. Moving the 27 1st is probably not smart because of that.

I mean you're talking to a Pens fan. Trust me, I get it.

 

[DesertPenguin]

I mean yeah. I don't give a flying %#$# about late 1sts nor should any team that is serious about winning. Ask Florida right now how much they miss all the futures they've traded. They don't. Realistically though the true window for the Knights is probably closed already unless there is a miracle this offseason. Just too much age/injury related decline. Moving the 27 1st is probably not smart because of that.

Would you do Rakell @ 4m for Hague's RFA rights, 2 2nds?