Value of: Willander packaged to move up in draft

I'm not overly familiar with Willander, but I like what I've heard. I'd move down from 9OA for 15OA and Willander.
Ditto. Pens 9OA + Capitals 2nd for Willander +15OA.

Then I move Karlsson with retention looking for a late 1st coming back. Use those assets + to get a LD. Some kind of package for Byram would be cool. Rust + the late first?

Byram Willander
Grzelcyk Timmins
Pickering Brunicke

I'd give up a lot to remake the back end like that. (Brunicke is the long term Letang replacement)
 
Ditto. Pens 9OA + Capitals 2nd for Willander +15OA.

Then I move Karlsson with retention looking for a late 1st coming back. Use those assets + to get a LD. Some kind of package for Byram would be cool. Rust + the late first?

Byram Willander
Grzelcyk Timmins
Pickering Brunicke

I'd give up a lot to remake the back end like that. (Brunicke is the long term Letang replacement)
Awful for Vancouver. Move up 6 spots and a late 2nd for Willander? No chance.
 
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The other day I was wondering if VAN would be interested in Willander-Mintyukov swap with Ducks.

I don't think we're necessarilly looking to move Minty, but one on the left side will eventually have to move and we're less deep on the right side.

Personally, I'd do it but I have no idea VAN fans would agree and I know thered be a lot of ANA fans disagreeing
 
The other day I was wondering if VAN would be interested in Willander-Mintyukov swap with Ducks.

I don't think we're necessarilly looking to move Minty, but one on the left side will eventually have to move and we're less deep on the right side.

Personally, I'd do it but I have no idea VAN fans would agree and I know thered be a lot of ANA fans disagreeing
I like Minty but if Vancouver moves Willander they should be targeting a package involving a top 6 center. Nothing else makes sense.
 
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Ditto. Pens 9OA + Capitals 2nd for Willander +15OA.

Then I move Karlsson with retention looking for a late 1st coming back. Use those assets + to get a LD. Some kind of package for Byram would be cool. Rust + the late first?

Byram Willander
Grzelcyk Timmins
Pickering Brunicke

I'd give up a lot to remake the back end like that. (Brunicke is the long term Letang replacement)
Im not overlly educated on this years draft, but wouldnt Willander go in the 3-6 range this year?
 
Im not overlly educated on this years draft, but wouldnt Willander go in the 3-6 range this year?

Purely on prospect quality, Willander as he is now would be similar to a 9th or 10th overall pick in a vacuum, or thereabout.

The top 4 (Schaefer, Misa, Hagens, Martone) is pretty solid, and in my opinion much more high-end than Willander is.

Then I'd say that I've got all of Desnoyers, Frondell, Smith, and Eklund on a higher tier as prospects too. I wouldn't trade any of those guys 1-for-1 for Willander.

I'd say that Willander would be pretty interchangeable for a guy like O'Brien and Mrtka right now (9th or 10th, checks-out), and that he'd be ever-so-slightly higher on an hypothetical draft board than guys like McQueen, Lakovic, and Aitcheson.

Long story short, people are talking crap about this draft being weak but it really isn't that bad and they're exaggerating quite a bit. This draft is more like 2017 than it is 2012 in my opinion.

As for what Willander would actually bring back in a trade, well, I'd actually say that depends on a team's composition in their prospect pool and how much they are willing to give for a defenseman that will quite probably play-out his junior year with BU and then may want to test free agency come August 2027 by also playing NCAA for his senior year.

I imagine any trade for Willander would be made with the team that tries to acquire him getting the opportunity to talk to him about an NHL contract and getting some amount of feedback on that.

Barring that, I actually think Willander's trade value may be negatively impacted quite a bit.

Canucks fans looking for a top pick straight-up for Willander will not get what they're looking for, I think.

But Willander could be a major part of a package for a 2C for the Canucks, that much is true.
 
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As a Blues fan, I'd trade Adam Jiricek, our 2025 first, Colin Ralph, and any two forward prospects not named Snuggerud, Dvorsky, or Stenberg for Willander alone.

I understand that it's very much a quantity for quality trade, understand why Vancouver fans probably won't go for it...but it's all I'm willing to offer, especially given the comments made by Willander's agent.
So, let me get this straight..

#16 Overall in 2024, albeit trending badly
#48 Overall in 2024, albeit trending badly
#19 Overall in 2025, draft Logan Hensler
Jakub Stancl, my FWD pick
Adam Jecho, my FWD pick
for
#11 Overall in 2023, albeit trending well

The Canucks would have to accept bro thats a haul. Jecho would be our 2nd best forward prospect behind Stancl once we graduate Lekkerimaki and Raty by default this offseason.

I am Tom Willander's biggest fan but you give me 5 pieces for him and I have to accept.

Willander for Habs 1st #17 + Micheal Hage ?

16 and Hage, and we'd have to accept.

Draft Logan Hensler with the Habs pick, and get a free center prospect back?

Done.

Tom will be great but not Hage and Hensler combined great.

Maybe #16 + #17 for Willander?

Basically the same as above but Hage is a year older. I like either though we're not picky we're deprived of prospect depth so 2 for 1 sounds good.

Any chance we squeeze you both for our 3rd back?

#79 Overall on top and its a easy yes.
 
Moving up in this years draft is not even in the top 15 of things that may happen this year. Owner has no interest in futures, management needs to reverse the debacle that this year was now if not sooner. Next year is all about showing Quin Hughes that itll be worth it to resign here. Any trades that happen will be for ready to play now players. They dont give two s#$ts about this years draft, that pick is gone for something now
 
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I think you will find no one would trade a top 5 pick this year for him.
Most likely as teams with high draft picks seldom do trade but value wise a signed Willander is worth it in value just watch him when he does make the NHL he will be an excellent NHL Dman.
 
This is solid value. Doubt he’s trade Hage considering their centre depth and Van probably looking to package Willander and the 1st for a more established young centre. Still a good proposal.

The resaon why you think this is a good proposal is because it is an overpayment by Montreal.

I personally think Hage is worth a 15th or 16th-overall pick in this year's draft.

And that, in addition to the 17th pick, would be enough in trade to acquire a pick in the top 5-7 pick depending on the draft value chart you use.

And I think Willander, though no slouch himself at all, has lesser value than such a pick.

A more balanced proposal would be the 17th overall pick and someone like Logan Mailloux in trade, not Michael Hage.
 
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