Value of: Willander packaged to move up in draft

[Siludin]

Canucks pick is ranked 15th pre-lottery and that's not likely to change.
With the defense fairly set, and questions at forward, the Canucks might want to move up in the draft and choose a high-impact forward.

Which teams would move down and take the Canucks 15th pick + Willander?
Does Boston pick up the phone assuming their pick stays at 5?

 

[Blanick]

Canucks pick is ranked 15th pre-lottery and that's not likely to change.
With the defense fairly set, and questions at forward, the Canucks might want to move up in the draft and choose a high-impact forward.

Which teams would move down and take the Canucks 15th pick + Willander?
Does Boston pick up the phone assuming their pick stays at 5?

Blues can't help you move up in the draft but if the Canucks are looking at moving Willander we should be looking at a move to get him. Loved his chemistry with Lindstein a few years back in the WJC and the Blues have a big need of RHD prospects with potential. Sadly our best piece that I could see management being willing to move is our 1st this year and it's going to be after the Canucks.

 

[Chainshot]

Canucks pick is ranked 15th pre-lottery and that's not likely to change.
With the defense fairly set, and questions at forward, the Canucks might want to move up in the draft and choose a high-impact forward.

Which teams would move down and take the Canucks 15th pick + Willander?
Does Boston pick up the phone assuming their pick stays at 5?

Buffalo runs to the phone to call their expansion bros.

 

[Canovin]

What's this kid value?

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Buffalo runs to the phone to call their expansion bros.

no team with a top 10 pick is moving down , not for this package

 

[Chainshot]

no team with a top 10 pick is moving down , not for this package

Almost no teams ever move down out of the top 10. But that wasn't the hypothetical.

 

[Grinner]

If the Sharks drop out if the top spot.
And if the Canucks add another significant piece I'd probably do it
2026 1st. McKenna protected.

 

[wetcoast]

no team with a top 10 pick is moving down , not for this package

Maybe not the top team but a signed Willander and the 15 the pick is fairly equal in value to more than half of the top 10 picks.

Say you are high in Frondell, is he that much better on his own than say Willander and a Martin, Reschy, Coates ect?

I'd venture to say not maybe Schaefer is the only guy I wouldn't not do that trade for.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Boston needs high end talent so no chance they pick it up, you might at most be able to move into the 7-11 range

Maybe not the tip team but a signed Willander and the 15 the pick is fairly equal in value to more than half of the top 10 picks.

Say you are high in Frondell, is he that much better on his own than say Willander and a Martin, Reschy, Coates ect?

I'd venture to say not maybe Schaefer is the only guy I wouldn't not do that trade for.

Every year this happens, we start approaching the draft and people start calling it a weak draft hoping to trade up. You aren't getting a top 5 pick for that package, and you are out of your mind if you think a team would trade the Misa or Hagens pick for that.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

I'm not overly familiar with Willander, but I like what I've heard. I'd move down from 9OA for 15OA and Willander.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

Buffalo runs to the phone to call their expansion bros.

I would love a deal with you guys but not for swapping picks.

There is no way at least I don't think that Willander gets moved but if he did it would have to be for an impact forward and likely as one piece added to others to get a 2C or an impact winger.

Not saying any of these guys are available but guys like Tage, Larkin, Barzal, Duchene, Forsberg, etc, etc etc, are the level they will be targeting.

Our GM made it pretty clear that they are targeting that level of forward and are willing to pay the ridiculous price most of those players would cost.

There is one mandate this off-season and that is to exhaust every option this summer to get a 2c and a top winger, likely the 2c via trade and the winger on July 1st.

They said the only D prospect off the table is EP2 who played so well and has size, speed to go along with a mean streak and was really good in his own zone.

I would have thought Willander would be the guy off the table but D-Petey made that a slight possibility.

Quinn being up for a massive extension next summer pretty much means Demko won't be moved and shouldn't be regardless now that he's healthy and any trade of guys like Willander, Lekkerimakki, Mynio, along with any and all picks have to be used only to aquire immediate help.

In a perfect world, Marner, Bennett or Ehlers on July 1st and one of those guys I mentioned via trade.

As for the sabres, you guys should be saying fuc* the picks and instead adding older ish high end players.

 

[BKarchitect]

Willander would be the 2nd best defensive prospect in this draft (easily IMO, given there is a bit of risk with a guy like Jackson Smith) and has several years now of high-end, positive development and a resume that screams "will be ready very soon". People who don't think he is, himself a high-end, top tier prospect are completely underestimating him in the same way guys like Faber were underestimated as prospects. He may not be a 60-point PP1 guy, and he may not be 6-6 - but he's a just a fantastic blend of athleticism, intelligence and projects as an all-weather, 24 minute a night top pairing stalwart.

There are probably teams focused more on grabbing a high-impact forward that wouldn't consider it - but I imagine a #15+Willander package would have huge value and if I'm the Canucks, and that only gets me to #7 or 8 (in that range) - I need something valuable back with the pick to boot. Sacrificing Willander to only move up 5-7 spots is certifiably insane.

 

[wetcoast]

Boston needs high end talent so no chance they pick it up, you might at most be able to move into the 7-11 range


Every year this happens, we start approaching the draft and people start calling it a weak draft hoping to trade up. You aren't getting a top 5 pick for that package, and you are out of your mind if you think a team would trade the Misa or Hagens pick for that.

You are right most teams don't do it because the offer like this isn't there.

Willander projects very easily with a high floor and will be a 22MPG defensive Dman and has outlet skills as well.

Combined with the 15th pick the value is there for most teams in the top 10 IMO.

 

[Chainshot]

I would love a deal with you guys but not for swapping picks.

There is no way at least I don't think that Willander gets moved but if he did it would have to be for an impact forward and likely as one piece added to others to get a 2C or an impact winger.

Not saying any of these guys are available but guys like Tage, Larkin, Barzal, Duchene, Forsberg, etc, etc etc, are the level they will be targeting.

Our GM made it pretty clear that they are targeting that level of forward and are willing to pay the ridiculous price most of those players would cost.

There is one mandate this off-season and that is to exhaust every option this summer to get a 2c and a top winger, likely the 2c via trade and the winger on July 1st.

They said the only D prospect off the table is EP2 who played so well and has size, speed to go along with a mean streak and was really good in his own zone.

I would have thought Willander would be the guy off the table but D-Petey made that a slight possibility.

Quinn being up for a massive extension next summer pretty much means Demko won't be moved and shouldn't be regardless now that he's healthy and any trade of guys like Willander, Lekkerimakki, Mynio, along with any and all picks have to be used only to aquire immediate help.

In a perfect world, Marner, Bennett or Ehlers on July 1st and one of those guys I mentioned via trade.

As for the sabres, you guys should be saying fuc* the picks and instead adding older ish high end players.

Based on the criteria above, Buffalo should happily be running to the phone to make that deal. And I get that Vancouver in reality is going to be trying to find bodies rather than futures this summer. Buffalo should be doing the same thing - moving out draft picks and mid prospects for NHL talent, reshaping their blueline. Willander however is such a gem of a RHD prospect, should be close to stepping in and contributing immediately upon leaving school that I would happily give up top 10 this year to get that guy for the end of next season.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Willander would be the second best defensive prospect in this draft and he alone would probably be worth a picks 7-10. Also most Canucks fans think this a is terrible idea I don’t know what the op is thinking.

 

[kcunac]

Willander was picked 11OV and only improved. He’s a surefire top 4 RD and ready to be in the NHL full time next season. He’s easily worth a top 10 pick himself in this weak draft and I wouldn’t trade him straight up for the 7OV let alone add our first.

Guys like O’Brien or McQueen that we’d be targeting in that range are much more likely to bust than Willander and will take 2+ additional years to be ready for the NHL.

This site’s affinity for magic beans over more proven talent is insane.

 

[Djp]

I would love a deal with you guys but not for swapping picks.

There is no way at least I don't think that Willander gets moved but if he did it would have to be for an impact forward and likely as one piece added to others to get a 2C or an impact winger.

Not saying any of these guys are available but guys like Tage, Larkin, Barzal, Duchene, Forsberg, etc, etc etc, are the level they will be targeting.

Our GM made it pretty clear that they are targeting that level of forward and are willing to pay the ridiculous price most of those players would cost.

There is one mandate this off-season and that is to exhaust every option this summer to get a 2c and a top winger, likely the 2c via trade and the winger on July 1st.

They said the only D prospect off the table is EP2 who played so well and has size, speed to go along with a mean streak and was really good in his own zone.

I would have thought Willander would be the guy off the table but D-Petey made that a slight possibility.

Quinn being up for a massive extension next summer pretty much means Demko won't be moved and shouldn't be regardless now that he's healthy and any trade of guys like Willander, Lekkerimakki, Mynio, along with any and all picks have to be used only to aquire immediate help.

In a perfect world, Marner, Bennett or Ehlers on July 1st and one of those guys I mentioned via trade.

As for the sabres, you guys should be saying fuc* the picks and instead adding older ish high end players.

Wilander and your 15 th will not get the 2C you want.

You need to target a below the radar player who develops

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Blues can't help you move up in the draft but if the Canucks are looking at moving Willander we should be looking at a move to get him. Loved his chemistry with Lindstein a few years back in the WJC and the Blues have a big need of RHD prospects with potential. Sadly our best piece that I could see management being willing to move is our 1st this year and it's going to be after the Canucks.

Maybe Willander for Dvorsky?

 

[Fatass]

Wouldn’t Van be far more likely to trade Willander and 15OA to get help now? Not really known for being patient.

 

[Grinner]

Willander was picked 11OV and only improved. He’s a surefire top 4 RD and ready to be in the NHL full time next season. He’s easily worth a top 10 pick himself in this weak draft and I wouldn’t trade him straight up for the 7OV let alone add our first.

Guys like O’Brien or McQueen that we’d be targeting in that range are much more likely to bust than Willander and will take 2+ additional years to be ready for the NHL.

This site’s affinity for magic beans over more proven talent is insane.

Willander is still far more the magic beam over a proven talent

 

[Peter Griffin]

Wouldn’t Van be far more likely to trade Willander and 15OA to get help now? Not really known for being patient.

Yea this is the more likely scenario.

 

[Blanick]

Maybe Willander for Dvorsky?

Value is fair but I don't see Blues management doing it. Willander was taken right after Dvorsky so the Blues could have picked him if they valued him higher than Dvorsky. Also, I think internally they view him as the heir apparent to the 2C spot, currently held by Schenn, as early as this next year. Allowing Schenner to slide the down the lineup as he ages.

That's the thing I don't really see a piece that management would move that Vancouver would consider other than our 2025 1st +. I think many other teams could beat that offer though.

 

[Canucks LB]

Moving up makes meh sense for Vancouver
The ownership wants to win now, they are going to use him as a trade asset to land a more established centre

 

[Raistlin]

if they trade Willander for a pick, they might as well trade Hughes also.

 

[LemonSauceD]

That would be terrible.