Will the NHL ever change their rules for reporting injuries? (with a funny clip!)

[New Jerseys Devil]

Here we have a clip of two NBA announcers having some fun with the reporting of Anthony Davis' injury as 'lower-body'. I think a clip like this goes to show how silly the NHL sounds when it comes to their reporting of injuries.

Ive read its to protect the players.. yet do we see any scale of abuse toward player injuries in other sports when accurately stated? Why such a level of secrecy?

Though this conversation is sparked by the recent news of Vegas' possibly having extra spending money, it is something that has bothered me since long before Las Vegas was granted a team!

Should the NHL change its rules on how they report injuries? Should there be a forced level of specificity on what the injury is and how long recovery can take? Or do the other leagues have it wrong while the NHL does it right?

Thanks for reading!

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[SnowblindNYR]

I've gotten into this Rangers fans. But the public that spends time and money deserve better than "upper body injury".

 

[Summer Rose]

HIPAA is an important thing in the United States and the NHLPA fought for this. They're a pretty strong union (in comparison, the NFLPA is a pretty weak union).

As much as it sucks as a fan to not know what kind of injury a player is specifically dealing with, I understand it at least. People should have a right to privacy even if they're in the public eye and making lots of money.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

No. You don't need to know specifics. Neither does anyone else.

 

[ES]

I recall some EA Sports NHL game commentary line being something like this.
He's not returning to the game but the injury is not career-threatening.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Here we have a clip of two NBA announcers having some fun with the reporting of Anthony Davis' injury as 'lower-body'. I think a clip like this goes to show how silly the NHL sounds when it comes to their reporting of injuries.

Ive read its to protect the players.. yet do we see any scale of abuse toward player injuries in other sports when accurately stated? Why such a level of secrecy?

Though this conversation is sparked by the recent news of Vegas' possibly having extra spending money, it is something that has bothered me since long before Las Vegas was granted a team!

Should the NHL change its rules on how they report injuries? Should there be a forced level of specificity on what the injury is and how long recovery can take? Or do the other leagues have it wrong while the NHL does it right?

Thanks for reading!

Okay --that made my day

 

[New Jerseys Devil]

No. You don't need to know specifics. Neither does anyone else.

Thats fair! I just find the parallel between our beloved league and the others, on this topic, to be stark; though as @Summer Rose politely stated it is related to US law and the NHLPA's decisions on the matter

 

[StreetHawk]

I've gotten into this Rangers fans. But the public that spends time and money deserve better than "upper body injury".

NFL teams have to be more specific on injuries. Be it a hand, shoulder, knee, ankle, back, etc. Plus, during the week for practice, they need to report whether that player was a full participant, or limited at practice, or did not practice during the week.

Main reason is gambling. Between just the win/loss points covering, there are so many prop bets, so if the injury is to a WR, RB, or QB, you have to adjust for that potential decrease in production in your bet. But, also for the Defence, if their best pass rusher is out, or best cover CB is out, you may opt to take the over for the offence.

Will the NHL ever be more specific on their injury reporting? Probably in time as sports gambling increases.

 

[Primary Assist]

No, I want them to be more vague just to spite the gambling companies

 

[FissionFire]

HIPAA laws prevent teams from even disclosing whether or not a player is injured without their consent. If the owners wanted to disclose specifics they’d need to bargain it into the CBA and I strongly doubt they care enough to concede anything for that.

Just like I wouldn’t want my doctor broadcasting to the world what my medical ailments are, the players have a right to keep their medical situations as private as they are allowed to under the CBA.

 

[hatterson]

NFL teams have to be more specific on injuries. Be it a hand, shoulder, knee, ankle, back, etc. Plus, during the week for practice, they need to report whether that player was a full participant, or limited at practice, or did not practice during the week.

Main reason is gambling. Between just the win/loss points covering, there are so many prop bets, so if the injury is to a WR, RB, or QB, you have to adjust for that potential decrease in production in your bet. But, also for the Defence, if their best pass rusher is out, or best cover CB is out, you may opt to take the over for the offence.

Will the NHL ever be more specific on their injury reporting? Probably in time as sports gambling increases.

I think one thing that helps the NHL fight this off is that it's a much more random game and individual players have less of an impact.

If Barkley is out the Eagles offense looks a lot different. If Allen is out the Bills are pretty awful offensively, etc. If McDavid or Matthews is out, the Oilers or Leafs still have a decent chance of scoring a decent number of goals.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

NFL teams have to be more specific on injuries. Be it a hand, shoulder, knee, ankle, back, etc. Plus, during the week for practice, they need to report whether that player was a full participant, or limited at practice, or did not practice during the week.

Main reason is gambling. Between just the win/loss points covering, there are so many prop bets, so if the injury is to a WR, RB, or QB, you have to adjust for that potential decrease in production in your bet. But, also for the Defence, if their best pass rusher is out, or best cover CB is out, you may opt to take the over for the offence.

Will the NHL ever be more specific on their injury reporting? Probably in time as sports gambling increases.

I believe as consumers of the sport even without gambling, you're making your product worse by being mysterious about these injuries.

 

[dahrougem2]

No, I want them to be more vague just to spite the gambling companies

"Day to day. Something happened. Not sure what. Trainers don't know either. Video coach erased the tape accidentally. We'll see how he feels soon."

 

[Oilslick941611]

No, I want them to be more vague just to spite the gambling companies

this

 

[Washed Up 29YearOld]

If you're specific about it players will start targeting the afflicted body locations. Hockey is a contact sport, unlike basketball. If you reveal it's knees for example you'll get targeted like crazy at the knees especially in the playoffs

 

[New Jerseys Devil]

If you're specific about it players will start targeting the afflicted body locations. Hockey is a contact sport, unlike basketball. If you reveal it's knees for example you'll get targeted like crazy at the knees especially in the playoffs

I could see this happening in a very competitive environment; but what about the NFL?

 

[Washed Up 29YearOld]

I could see this happening in a very competitive environment; but what about the NFL?

hockey's different, you can bare-knuckle punch someone in the face and not get an assault charge lol.

In the NFL plays are fast and they hit to hurt in the playoffs, but it's harder to target specific areas like knees without it being a penalty and hurting the team. There's only 17 games. A suspension or loss of yardage isn't really worth it.

 

[StreetHawk]

hockey's different, you can bare-knuckle punch someone in the face and not get an assault charge lol.

In the NFL plays are fast and they hit to hurt in the playoffs, but it's harder to target specific areas like knees without it being a penalty and hurting the team. There's only 17 games. A suspension or loss of yardage isn't really worth it.

NFL, you are not targeting to injure the opponent, but take advantage of their injury. Like if the OT has a bad left knee, you as the Edge rusher are going to utilize that knowledge and attack to put him in a bad position.

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

hockey's different, you can bare-knuckle punch someone in the face and not get an assault charge lol.

In the NFL plays are fast and they hit to hurt in the playoffs, but it's harder to target specific areas like knees without it being a penalty and hurting the team. There's only 17 games. A suspension or loss of yardage isn't really worth it.

Depends on the players positions. A DE going against a LT he knows has a bum right shoulder, easy for the DE to stress that injury as they’ll be going head to head dozens of times.

If you’re talking targeting an injury as in an attempt to injure, well there’s already rules in place to punish for that.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

No, I want them to be more vague just to spite the gambling companies

Forget even being vague, just flat out make shit up.

"Mitch Marner will be out due to a Golden Retriever growing from his ballsack. Estimated return to the lineup is anywhere from 2 days to 100 years." I fail to see the problem.

 

[catnip]

I don't need to know that a player has crabs or a broken pinky toe. I can see wanting to know whether someone will be out for a week, or two months, or until next Christmas, but feel free to skip the specifics.

 

[HolyGhost]

Considering how tight the NHL is with Gambling, it is shocking the gambling groups have not told the NHL to tighten the rules

 

[MadLuke]

Isn,t the only reason why athlete would loose that right in favor, be pressure from the betting/gambling lobby ?

Upper-lower body joke is a nice hockey tradition, imo and gambling is alreay way too present.

 

[miscs75]

Lou says no

 

[a mangy Meowth]

That was hilarious

"Well... it was below the shoulders..."