Will Randy Carlyle find another job in the NHL?
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Randy Caryle has coached a championship team and with what is happening in Toronto after him being fired it shows that Randy Caryle isn't really that bad.
Tak7
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If he does get another shot, you would think it would have to be quickly, no? As in this coming off-season?
We know the Panthers were interested in him last off-season. I think he would have to get back into the game quickly, or suffer the same sort of slide into irrelevance that befell Ron Wilson once he left Toronto.
A) the spiral in Toronto, including their scoring woes, started while Randy was there.
B) to point to the results since Randy left, is to lazily ignore the many bizarre, puzzling, strange, confusing, & ridiculous choices that the head coach made while he was there.
"SEE! THEY SUCK WITHOUT HIM!" ...isn't exactly meaningful if they were terrible while he was there too.
We know the Panthers were interested in him last off-season. I think he would have to get back into the game quickly, or suffer the same sort of slide into irrelevance that befell Ron Wilson once he left Toronto.
A) the spiral in Toronto, including their scoring woes, started while Randy was there.
B) to point to the results since Randy left, is to lazily ignore the many bizarre, puzzling, strange, confusing, & ridiculous choices that the head coach made while he was there.
"SEE! THEY SUCK WITHOUT HIM!" ...isn't exactly meaningful if they were terrible while he was there too.
These Are The Days
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I remember times when Leaf fans wanted Randy's head on a stick. Funny how things change.
I think Randy needs to take some time off and wait for the right job to open. I'm curious how he would do in St. Louis. I'm convinced Hitchcock is gonna be shown the door if the Blues **** the bed in the playoffs again. I readily admit I don't get to watch much Blues hockey but I gather that the expectations from a fan, team and organizational standpoint is that if they aren't to win it all, then anything less than making the Conference Finals would be considered a failure. If Hitch goes I wonder if Carlyle would take a crack at it there.
I think Randy needs to take some time off and wait for the right job to open. I'm curious how he would do in St. Louis. I'm convinced Hitchcock is gonna be shown the door if the Blues **** the bed in the playoffs again. I readily admit I don't get to watch much Blues hockey but I gather that the expectations from a fan, team and organizational standpoint is that if they aren't to win it all, then anything less than making the Conference Finals would be considered a failure. If Hitch goes I wonder if Carlyle would take a crack at it there.
Pyrophorus
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Hope that enjoys letting 40-50 shots per game, while alienating productive players.
Don't you remember when Randy was there?
Vipers31
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I don't know about his methods enough to make a call on them, but yes, his inability and/or unwillingness to adapt have been his major problem since way before getting fired in Anaheim, IMO.
James Duthie
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Well he managed to make crap look good for a half season and decent at best. Now you see crap turn into melted **** in the hot sun with a putrid smell.
Semantics
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Yup, Carlyle was one of the older coaches in the NHL (which kind of showed in his dinosaur tactics). I think he may be past his shelf life, there are only 30 jobs in the league and there are always younger promising candidates coming up.
Good point, and in addition to all his coaching failure in Toronto, let's not forget the lasting damage he did by running players out of town. We were an improving team when he got here and had a good 2nd line with Kulemin, MacArthur, Grabovski ... he ran them all out of town for nothing. And he was a major factor in the Clarkson signing and Bolland trade. Carlyle is almost as complicit as Nonis in screwing over this organization for the long term.
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The Leafs allowed the most shots against in a season OF ALL TIME under Carlyle. Amazing how quickly fans of other teams have forgotten just how awful he was in one month.
Dr Robot
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I didn't think he was a good coach by any means but he wasn't bad either. If i had to rate him he's below average/average. People kept laying the blame for the leafs at his feet even though the problems with the team persisted long before he showed up. I don't think he helped the situation much but to use the much beloved 18 wheeler analogy, he may have been driving but there were multiple flat tires and an icy road before he took it over the cliff.
BigDaddyLurch
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Bobby Smash
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Carlyle lives in SD, I could see him doing some kind of front office job for Anaheim's new AHL team until he gets an NHL coaching gig.
Topics like these remind me of how stupid HF can be when they have a chance to bash on the Leafs or Oilers.
If you have watched any Leaf games in the Carlyle era you would know just how ineffective his coaching really was. The defensive system he was running allowed the most shots in 82 game history.
Even with their woes the Leafs have arguably played better under Horacek than Carlyle. If you just wanna look at scores than go to the NHL facebook page, if you actually watch games you would not be defending Carlyle's time coaching the Leafs
If you have watched any Leaf games in the Carlyle era you would know just how ineffective his coaching really was. The defensive system he was running allowed the most shots in 82 game history.
Even with their woes the Leafs have arguably played better under Horacek than Carlyle. If you just wanna look at scores than go to the NHL facebook page, if you actually watch games you would not be defending Carlyle's time coaching the Leafs
Man Bear Pig
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He wouldn't adapt here, just like he wouldn't adapt in Anaheim. He's stubborn and has outdated coaching philosophies. He wasn't the reason the Leafs were bad, at all, but I think fans of teams who have a stubborn coach know how frustrating it is having a guy like that behind the bench. Adjustments are huge in coaching and the guys who don't make them typically don't make it far.
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He kept the leafs out of last place this season. I'd like to see him get a chance with a competent team.
WarriorofTime
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He's a quality coach with a cup-winning pedigree that overachieved with the garbage roster Brian Burke handed him. I wouldn't be shocked if he was a Head Coach of an NHL team to start next season.
Voight
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Yes, he's a winner and wasn't pretty good in Anaheim. I'd take him as an assistant coach easily.
