Will NHL look at implementing playoff salary cap?

[Suntouchable13]

I Love this loophole , we can just sign 15 more superstars to outragious contracts LTIR everybody on the team , rotate a compliant team of stars and league minimum plugs every night the rest can be on conditioning rehab stints with the Marlies between
" injuries " until the playoffs start then we ice the best players in the world as 1 team and screw the whole league , whats not to love ?
The New York Yankees can eat their hearts out lol!

LOL, I hope you're just joking. There is no way the league is going to allow it. You can't just put anyone you want on LTIR willy nilly. There has to be some kind legit reason.

 

[Gallagbi]

It's more likely they create a roster rule, where a player has to play a game prior to the deadline to be playoff eligible. It sort of already exists, but it's the player has to be on the roster prior to the deadline to be eligible, and IR + LTIR are apart of that. So I for sure think it'll be amended to say a player has to have played regular season games prior to the deadline to be eligible to compete in the playoffs.

This feels like the easiest solution.

Put in a games played qualifier, doesn't even need to be with that team, but something to have them on an active roster playing games. Add the qualifier for the playoffs team if necessary.

I also doubt TB could have pulled this offer over a normal 82 game season. Having a shortened, condensed season with little travel made this more feasible than normal

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Worth noting too if it was a regular 82 game season Kucherov would have been back playing during the regular season this preventing any perceived cap circumvention from even happening.

This situation isn't something that most teams can repeat

Kuch could have played in March .. but he had to wait until end of season to lace em up due to CAP .. if Tampa could have played him they would have done it .. no reason why JT can't miss season either .. headaches and vision issues can't be read with technology today .. no one really knows except person with concussion .. this issue will be exploited many more times by other teams trying to build a playoff team trying to win .. what is stupid is da CBA and existent CAP system .. great for Jacobs who loves to make $$$ and his gang of small market teams that vote with him .. as chair of league puts him in a good position to control Bettman da commish .. terrible for anyone like Vegas, TO, Habs and Rangers who can afford double salaries today to build better hockey teams .. current system is socialist and builds mediocrity and puts too much $$$ in rich owners pockets like Jacobs .. we need a capital based system in a free labour market

 

[v4karuna]

Nope, I think the solution is to get rid of the salary cap. If the small town teams cannot survive, well thats too bad then, I don't care about them.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Nope, I think the solution is to get rid of the salary cap. If the small town teams cannot survive, well thats too bad then, I don't care about them.

Not happening. Might turn into a soft cap in a future CBA, but the league is never giving up the cap.

 

[Mess]

Nope, I think the solution is to get rid of the salary cap. If the small town teams cannot survive, well thats too bad then, I don't care about them.

Even when there was no Salary Cap the Leafs still had the longest Cup drought dating back to their last Cup in 1967.

Leafs didn't even make the Stanley Cup Finals from 1968-2004 with no Salary Cap.

The Kucherov situation was a one off situation and doesn't happen in most years. Most teams would need a star player to play in the regular season to qualify for the playoffs. Tampa is so well built Cap and personnel that they still secure a playoff spot even without their top player.

 

[ACC1224]

Nope, I think the solution is to get rid of the salary cap. If the small town teams cannot survive, well thats too bad then, I don't care about them.

The league cares about them though, it's irrelevant if you do.

 

[MarMarSab3]

I think the solution may be a luxury tax system.

For example 2021-22 season salary cap of 82 million....

1- 3,000,000 over cap = 30% tax
3,000,001 - 5,000,000 over = 40% tax
5,000,001 - 8,000,000 max over = 50% tax

I think this gives the healthy teams the right to exceed as they see fit

 

[Cor]

I think the solution may be a luxury tax system.

For example 2021-22 season salary cap of 82 million....

1- 3,000,000 over cap = 30% tax
3,000,001 - 5,000,000 over = 40% tax
5,000,001 - 8,000,000 max over = 50% tax

I think this gives the healthy teams the right to exceed as they see fit

The tax percentages would need to be stricter, but yeah, a luxury tax has long been considered by radio heads and fans, but I don’t think the league has ever considered it.

 

[keonsbitterness]

The tax percentages would need to be stricter, but yeah, a luxury tax has long been considered by radio heads and fans, but I don’t think the league has ever considered it.

Probably dollar for dollar. Maybe more past a certain point.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

I doubt it. It would kill off a lot of trades from happening at the tdl and the league likes to use the tdl to market hype for the playoffs.

This and the players union certainly won't like it as it helps gives additional money to their members (players).

 

[joepeps]

Even when there was no Salary Cap the Leafs still had the longest Cup drought dating back to their last Cup in 1967.

Leafs didn't even make the Stanley Cup Finals from 1968-2004 with no Salary Cap.

The Kucherov situation was a one off situation and doesn't happen in most years. Most teams would need a star player to play in the regular season to qualify for the playoffs. Tampa is so well built Cap and personnel that they still secure a playoff spot even without their top player.

It happened with Chicago and Kane... so is that a 2 off?

 

[Pi]

Leafs should try to just do the same. I know Tavares is a competitor and probably wants to be on the ice but if it makes the team better and gives him a shit ton of time to recover and have fresh legs, why not milk his concussion/injury for all it's worth and get 11M of free cap space which if you wait till the deadline to use is over 22M of cap space if not more.

That would roughly give the Leafs a team of ~100-110M cap (obviously you have to acquire players with expiring contracts at the deadline).

If you can't win a couple rounds and get to the SCF with that kind of depth, might as well just relegate to the AHL lol.

 

[TorMapleJays]

NFL model.

Non guaranteed contracts.

you don’t perform, cut.
NHLPA will never go for it but man…

 

[cupcrazyman]

Seeing as it's a major loophole with teams exceeding and in some cases (Tampa) overly exceeding the Salary cap, will the NHL look to create a level playing field?

Sour Grapes because the Habs are getting their ass handed to them.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

NFL model.

Non guaranteed contracts.

you don’t perform, cut.
NHLPA will never go for it but man…

This. ^.

 

[Menzinger]

NFL model.

Non guaranteed contracts.

you don’t perform, cut.
NHLPA will never go for it but man…

Personally I'd like to see the league end guaranteed contracts and to get the NHLPA in to agree also have RFA eligibility get cut in half so guys become free agents at like 23.

Would end cap trouble for most teams and allow for a ton more player movement

 

[cannucky]

LOL, I hope you're just joking. There is no way the league is going to allow it. You can't just put anyone you want on LTIR willy nilly. There has to be some kind legit reason.[/QUOTE ]

While I may be joking there really is no way of telling if a head injury is real , every player in the league has had a concussion at some point in their life so "concussion related symptoms" is an undetectable injury .In theory you could do exactly what I just said and players could do rehab in the AHL then a week or two in the NHL then exhibit symptoms and rest 2 weeks , lather rinse repeat .
And to those complaining about how much Tampa is over the cap by you should look at our real salaries from a few years ago , I'm pretty sure we were spending well over a hundred million when we had multiple Clarkson contracts on our books .

While I may be joking there really is no way of telling if a head injury is real , every player in the league has had a concussion at some point in their life so "concussion related symptoms" is an undetectable injury .In theory you could do exactly what I just said and players could do rehab in the AHL then a week or two in the NHL then exhibit symptoms and rest 2 weeks , lather rinse repeat .
And to those complaining about how much Tampa is over the cap by you should look at our real salaries from a few years ago , I'm pretty sure we were spending well over a hundred million when we had multiple Clarkson contracts on our books .[/QUOTE]

 

[Lightsol]

Seeing as it's a major loophole with teams exceeding and in some cases (Tampa) overly exceeding the Salary cap, will the NHL look to create a level playing field?

No. Just like they won't close the tax loophole. It gives an advantage to teams Bettman wants to give advantages to.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Personally I'd like to see the league end guaranteed contracts and to get the NHLPA in to agree also have RFA eligibility get cut in half so guys become free agents at like 23.

Would end cap trouble for most teams and allow for a ton more player movement

Why not just let da free market prevail and put in a baseball/basketball/soccer system so small market teams get financially rewarded through da tax but players still get financial protection in event of a career ending injury .. why does hockey have this crazy backwards CAP system? because we have a lawyer running da show and a cheapo owner chairman who gets his small/mid market team rat pack together to control board .. why not make da hockey better for fans and players alike .. only da owners will make less .. and reward hard driving owners like in Vegas who wants a Cup and does not care about $$$

 

[Suntouchable13]

While I may be joking there really is no way of telling if a head injury is real , every player in the league has had a concussion at some point in their life so "concussion related symptoms" is an undetectable injury .In theory you could do exactly what I just said and players could do rehab in the AHL then a week or two in the NHL then exhibit symptoms and rest 2 weeks , lather rinse repeat .
And to those complaining about how much Tampa is over the cap by you should look at our real salaries from a few years ago , I'm pretty sure we were spending well over a hundred million when we had multiple Clarkson contracts on our books .

[/QUOTE]

While I am not really against what Tampa did, I wouldn't wanna win with the way that you proposed. That seems way over the top.

 

[wingman75]

I don't think they should or will implement a post-season cap. Not sure they could since the players salaries are technically $0.

I do think they should implement some rules about players who do not play in the regular season being ineligible.

That being said, I have no issue with what Tampa did. It fits within the rules as they are written today.

 

[cannucky]

While I am not really against what Tampa did, I wouldn't wanna win with the way that you proposed. That seems way over the top.[/QUOTE]


Agreed and I was be fictitious but still it would certainly force a major change to league operations if we did .

 

[Lightsol]

Maybe they have to have a look at the cap then. Doesn't seem right that the teams with financial muscle are restricted in how they can use it. I am not familiar with how the NBA system works, but is it really fair to compare.....NBA brings in a ton more revenue than the NHL could ever dream of, and I am sure it's tied to that. Have a look at a luxury tax maybe, like MLB? Not sure how good that works, when you have teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers who just spend whatever they want to get the best players in FA most of the time. At least 1 year recently the Yankees luxury tax was more than TB roster payroll? I don't think that would be a way to go, as you don't want a McDavid hitting UFA status and then have teams giving him $25M/year.

I'm less pissed off about the salary cap than I am about the damn revenue sharing. The Leafs and the Rangers are funding Tampa's back to back Cup wins, because the Lightning haven't made money in years. The Islanders actually lost the most money of all the NHL franchises in 2020...

 

[AcerComputer]

The problem is that ltir cap relief is pretty much essential under a capped league. If expensive players are out for extensive parts of the season the gm needs some flexibility to deal with it.

What happens if JT is out most of the season and the leafs sign two 4 mil players during the season with the accrued ltir cap space? Those two $4 million players have to just sit out for the playoffs? That seems ridiculous and the nhlpa would never go for it. So what would the fix be?

In the playoffs you could implement a capped game day roster. So everyone who plays that game/day has to fit under the cap.