Will NHL look at implementing playoff salary cap?

[MarMarSab3]

Seeing as it's a major loophole with teams exceeding and in some cases (Tampa) overly exceeding the Salary cap, will the NHL look to create a level playing field?

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[justashadowof]

Seeing as it's a major loophole with teams exceeding and in some cases (Tampa) overly exceeding the Salary cap, will the NHL look to create a level playing field?

I think the NHL will close this loophole and it will happen right after this season. At this point, the Leafs could easily hold back Tavares for the entire 2021-22 season for PCS while fortifying the lineup with $11.6M worth of players.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Look, maybe, but it can't happen unless the NHL and NHLPA agree to it.

I have an idea: get rid of the current buyout/retained/LTIR cap inclusions and exclusions, and instead require teams to have their game-day rosters (regular season and playoffs) come under the cap. This way, the richer teams can buy "over" the cap if they want, but they just can't play them all.

 

[Menzinger]

I doubt it. It would kill off a lot of trades from happening at the tdl and the league likes to use the tdl to market hype for the playoffs.

 

[Stephen]

Just have a soft cap system with progressive penalties for teams that want to go over the cap or a way to explicitly trade cap space for draft picks or dollars.

Allow great teams to be great teams and let teams that aren't at the cap are compensated in a way that fuels their competitiveness.

Gary Bettman and Bill Daley have turned the hockey watching audience into armchair accountants and it's not that fun.

 

[JayfromNB1219]

How about this…who cares? Good for Tampa for finding a loophole with Kucherov muzzling financial giants is a stupid practise…look at RM Barcelona NYY Man City etc…let’s teams with the wealth do what they can do otherwise why not just stick to the floor and have a league of Arizona’s to watch…

 

[Throw More Waffles]

I think the NHL will close this loophole and it will happen right after this season. At this point, the Leafs could easily hold back Tavares for the entire 2021-22 season for PCS while fortifying the lineup with $11.6M worth of players.

The problem is that ltir cap relief is pretty much essential under a capped league. If expensive players are out for extensive parts of the season the gm needs some flexibility to deal with it.

What happens if JT is out most of the season and the leafs sign two 4 mil players during the season with the accrued ltir cap space? Those two $4 million players have to just sit out for the playoffs? That seems ridiculous and the nhlpa would never go for it. So what would the fix be?

 

[JayfromNB1219]

I guess what I’m saying is that markets that care should have advantages…sorry I’m not interested in being close to par with Az when they can barely put 2000 butts in seats routinely while we sell out every game

 

[JayfromNB1219]

To be fair I think relegation and promotion should be a thing too honestly
Let smaller clubs earn their way to the big show and penalize those teams that tank by dropping them a division
-bring down the cost of a franchise
-Make a division B and or C that can earn promotion to the NHL
-let scouring find these players and sign them similarly to how European soccer does it…really open the game up to everyone

You know there would be some smaller towns and cities that would make their barn an absolutely hell to play in ala Besiktas in Turkey “welcome to hell”

 

[Eternal Leaf]

Look, maybe, but it can't happen unless the NHL and NHLPA agree to it.

I have an idea: get rid of the current buyout/retained/LTIR cap inclusions and exclusions, and instead require teams to have their game-day rosters (regular season and playoffs) come under the cap. This way, the richer teams can buy "over" the cap if they want, but they just can't play them all.

This is likely the best solution.

But the downside is you'll have too many healthy talented players sitting in the press box. Rich teams are going to buy multiple quality players and start rotating them while remaining under the daily cap.

This devalues the on-ice product. The NHL wants all of its talented players to be on the ice. Imagine Tampa just cutting 9.5 million worth of talent from its roster right now. That will be 2-3 good players.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

If Kucherov came back with say two weeks left in the regular season, would they still be below the cap anyways? That’s my understanding of accrued ltir… but I could be wrong

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Look, maybe, but it can't happen unless the NHL and NHLPA agree to it.

I have an idea: get rid of the current buyout/retained/LTIR cap inclusions and exclusions, and instead require teams to have their game-day rosters (regular season and playoffs) come under the cap. This way, the richer teams can buy "over" the cap if they want, but they just can't play them all.

That would change the way the market works at revolutionary levels.

Rich teams like the leafs would take on every bad contract in the league for assets. By July 2nd Neal, Lucic, Ericksson, Skinner, etc would all be leafs/Rangers/Habs, etc.

Teams would have almost no worries about overpaying ufa’s on both term and aav because after a few years of production Toronto can just bury them for you for like a 2nd rounder.
I could see the leafs having 20 1st and 2nd round picks going into every draft. Lol

 

[keonsbitterness]

To be fair I think relegation and promotion should be a thing too honestly
Let smaller clubs earn their way to the big show and penalize those teams that tank by dropping them a division
-bring down the cost of a franchise
-Make a division B and or C that can earn promotion to the NHL
-let scouring find these players and sign them similarly to how European soccer does it…really open the game up to everyone

You know there would be some smaller towns and cities that would make their barn an absolutely hell to play in ala Besiktas in Turkey “welcome to hell”

That will never happen here. We have a closed franchise system (fixed leagues), they have an open club system. The recent attempt by the rich European soccer clubs to create a closed 'Super League' shows which system they prefer.

 

[JayfromNB1219]

That will never happen here. We have a closed franchise system (fixed leagues), they have an open club system. The recent attempt by the rich European soccer clubs to create a closed 'Super League' shows which system they prefer.

Would never expect it to…and of course the high earning clubs want to keep the money between them…like that’s a surprise in any way lol

 

[Stonehands1990]

Just have a soft cap system with progressive penalties for teams that want to go over the cap or a way to explicitly trade cap space for draft picks or dollars.

Allow great teams to be great teams and let teams that aren't at the cap are compensated in a way that fuels their competitiveness.

Gary Bettman and Bill Daley have turned the hockey watching audience into armchair accountants and it's not that fun.

This is where I’m at. Luxury tax system

 

[keonsbitterness]

That would change the way the market works at revolutionary levels.

Rich teams like the leafs would take on every bad contract in the league for assets. By July 2nd Neal, Lucic, Ericksson, Skinner, etc would all be leafs/Rangers/Habs, etc.

Teams would have almost no worries about overpaying ufa’s on both term and aav because after a few years of production Toronto can just bury them for you for like a 2nd rounder.
I could see the leafs having 20 1st and 2nd round picks going into every draft. Lol

No team would spend that much. Eventually you'd get to a point of diminishing returns.

There is also a contract limit. AHL rosters still need to filled. Stashing away 20 players to use if necessary is not possible.

 

[keonsbitterness]

This is where I’m at. Luxury tax system

Might be possible post-Bettman. Impossible as long as he's around.

 

[Menzinger]

Worth noting too if it was a regular 82 game season Kucherov would have been back playing during the regular season this preventing any perceived cap circumvention from even happening.

This situation isn't something that most teams can repeat

 

[MarMarSab3]

Worth noting too if it was a regular 82 game season Kucherov would have been back playing during the regular season this preventing any perceived cap circumvention from even happening.

This situation isn't something that most teams can repeat

I disagree, I think a lot of teams will use this to their advantage, all of a sudden an injury that takes 4 to 6 weeks turns into six to eight weeks because it's just before the playoffs, Kucherov was ready long before the playoffs started as was Riley Nash yet they were both held out because of cap. Something needs to be done either be it a player must play a certain percentage of the season to qualify for the playoffs or a cap penalty for exceeding the cap

 

[horner]

Seeing as it's a major loophole with teams exceeding and in some cases (Tampa) overly exceeding the Salary cap, will the NHL look to create a level playing field?

Why not charge teams that go over the cap , like they do in basketball.
Have that money go to cash strapped teams .

 

[Menzinger]

I disagree, I think a lot of teams will use this to their advantage, all of a sudden an injury that takes 4 to 6 weeks turns into six to eight weeks because it's just before the playoffs, Kucherov was ready long before the playoffs started as was Riley Nash yet they were both held out because of cap. Something needs to be done either be it a player must play a certain percentage of the season to qualify for the playoffs or a cap penalty for exceeding the cap

Personally I don't see how this hurts the league in any tangible way though. Even if one views it as a cap circumventing loophole, all teams can take advantage of it equally.

I'd rather have a situation that allows for more creative mid-season trades than worrying about the spirit of the salary cap

 

[57 Years No Cup]

How about this…who cares? Good for Tampa for finding a loophole with Kucherov muzzling financial giants is a stupid practise…look at RM Barcelona NYY Man City etc…let’s teams with the wealth do what they can do otherwise why not just stick to the floor and have a league of Arizona’s to watch…

The OP sounds like a Dubas' fan with a knot in his knockers to me.

Sour grapes.

 

[Leaf Fans]

I don't think the NHL will start having a playoff salary in order to cap it.

 

[Dreakmur]

I disagree, I think a lot of teams will use this to their advantage, all of a sudden an injury that takes 4 to 6 weeks turns into six to eight weeks because it's just before the playoffs, Kucherov was ready long before the playoffs started as was Riley Nash yet they were both held out because of cap. Something needs to be done either be it a player must play a certain percentage of the season to qualify for the playoffs or a cap penalty for exceeding the cap

Something was done. The NHL investigated the Kucherov injury and concluded that he wasn't ready before he came back.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Seeing as it's a major loophole with teams exceeding and in some cases (Tampa) overly exceeding the Salary cap, will the NHL look to create a level playing field?

Explain how that works, some teams play 1 round, some 4 rounds.
Plus players don’t get paid in the playoffs, so cap is zero.