Will NA public and experts complain again, when a KHLer wins Calder in 2026?

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

So going by your logic....shouldn't players who have played in the AHL be excluded since they're NA professionals- and likely a much better league than the KHL?

if they are like 22+ I'd be fine with that. I'd have been fine changing the age rules after Panarin won. Your hypothetical almost never happens due to how NHL teams develop players, but I can see a potential future where like a great older undrafted/late round NCAA player emerges, and stays in school a long time cuase they are getting an NIL deal that keeps them there over trying to crack the NHL on an ELC.

They could be comparable and not eligible.

 

[PistolPete]

You might want to get some sandpaper to start shaving down that giant chip on your shoulder.

I'm pretty sure the complaints will be about the fact that all the world's best hockey players will be playing in North America as per usual.

"Show me the money!"

This is why Europen soccer leagues fear N.A. If soccer catches on here to a significant degree, their domestic leagues become farm leagues

 

[wetcoast]

It looks like the main contenders for the award are Nikishin, Shabanov and Demidov. So pretty possible that we will again hear complaints about KHL stars beating poor NA kids in the competition for the Calder.

Man the season hasn't even started yet and you are asking this loaded leading question for what purpose?

Give it a break.

 

[PistolPete]

Bored? Offseason.

That's what the CFL, CEBL, MLS , and MLB is for!

 

[HanSolo]

???

He thinks you're complimenting him.

 

[PistolPete]

So...I'm not as diehard as some of you sonInhad to look up Shabanov.....

Is he even being considered as a legit ROY candidate having never been drafted and only 5'8" and.....well....you know...rushin' to the NHL?

 

[Suntouchable13]

People will complain about anything. Just like when 50 year old Michael Bunting was up for the calder, so not just Russia is the issue.

 

[Frank Drebin]

we were all so mad when michkov almost won it. thankfully voters hate russians

 

[kingsholygrail]

Did you buy an almanac, Marty?

 

[PistolPete]

Did you buy an almanac, Marty?

Lol

My instant reaction to this was "Why is a reference to Marty McSorley funny?"

Then the 80s child in me knocked my head back to the future.

 

[WarriorofTime]

The Calder becomes completely irrelevant after the year in which it is won, so I do not think it's that big of a deal.

When the ~22-23 year old is in the KHL people say the KHL sucks and who knows if he'll be any good in the NHL. Then when they do well in NHL, people whine that they are coming in as grizzled veterans. Suddenly then the KHL is not so bad.

The only times it's been relevant in recent years were Panarin and Kaprizov, who both proved they were great players generally and not just old guys eeking out slightly better seasons than children.

 

[Cool Hand Puke]

Yeah people are real upset that Michkov won this year… wait…

 

[PistolPete]

Yeah people are real upset that Michkov won this year… wait…

Way to go....you probably woke up the Habs' homers...

 

[Cool Hand Puke]

Way to go....you probably woke up the Habs' homers...

Yeah that’s on me…

 

[kingsholygrail]

About a third of the Calder winners are HOFers. It's a pretty good indicator of future success, but obviously not a guarantee. It's wild that every winner from 1987 to 1996 ended up in the Hall.

 

[Sniper99]

Can probably close this thread, Kshado monthly troll thread at North Americans.

No no, please mods keep this open, I like watching the uneducated trolls try to make a point and everyone points and laughs at him or her.

 

[Ghost of Murph]

I expect a healthy debate over the Calder candidates next season, but not because of KHL experience. It could be quite a season for rookies since several are high-profile KHLers. Looking forward to seeing all of them play,,

It will also be fun to see the sophomore efforts of this past season's rookie phenoms. Really enjoying the youth movement going on in the NHL.

 

[PistolPete]

I expect a healthy debate over the Calder candidates next season, but not because of KHL experience. It could be quite a season for rookies since several are high-profile KHLers. Looking forward to seeing all of them play,,

It will also be fun to see the sophomore efforts of this past season's rookie phenoms. Really enjoying the youth movement going on in the NHL.

Imagine if the draft age was 20.

 

[Ghost of Murph]

Imagine if the draft age was 20.

That sure would make things interesting, wouldn't it?

 

[Sniper99]

Lol really? Nobody cared when Panarin won it over McDavid? Nobody cared when Kaprizov won it? You should probably check HF back to those seasons...

No! Nobody cared. Please go find the thread where people bitched.

 

[PistolPete]

That sure would make things interesting, wouldn't it?

It'd make the draft more exciting given most of the first and some of the second rounders make the jump by 20

 

[holy]

I got my thread saved in the drafts regarding this, thanks for reminding me again. Can't wait to get pissed off.

 

[SUX2BU]

It looks like the main contenders for the award are Nikishin, Shabanov and Demidov. So pretty possible that we will again hear complaints about KHL stars beating poor NA kids in the competition for the Calder.

Here, use tide

 

[Cool Hand Puke]

Lol really? Nobody cared when Panarin won it over McDavid? Nobody cared when Kaprizov won it? You should probably check HF back to those seasons...

You can easily search (insert name) + Calder and threads pop up from the main boards. One insecure Oiler fan is complaining it should have been McDavid but not due to the age but due to the fact that he was “on pace” to out produce Panarin. You’re more than welcome to check yourself. It’s free you know to do your own research.

 

[WarriorofTime]

You can easily search (insert name) + Calder and threads pop up from the main boards. One insecure Oiler fan is complaining it should have been McDavid but not due to the age but due to the fact that he was “on pace” to out produce Panarin. You’re more than welcome to check yourself. It’s free you know to do your own research.

The age thing was certainly a talking point.

They changed it back in the day when Makarov won it at age 31, if they want to lower the age again, they can, it's not a big deal. If they don't lower it, then the KHL guys should be eligible just the same as any guy with a lot of AHL time prior to entering the League. Obviously there are logistic factors (transfer agreement, burning eligibility with callups) that mean it is less likely but they don't need to make a whole separate rule just for players coming from the KHL to not win the Calder. Otherwise, just make the age whatever it is.