Will Mitch Marner become star?

[DavePoulin4PM]

3.4% shooting percent. It's very obvious that Marner has more to give. Him leading the team in assists with the minutes he's been given speaks volumes about how talented he really is. He's had times this year where he's looked utterly useless too. Once his shooting percentage normalizes and he starts bringing his A game consistently he will put up monster numbers.

What a bizarre post. Why do you think his shooting % will "normalize"? The kid does not have a pro level shot and probably never will. He is incredibly limited because of this. A pass first player, who has a shot that couldn't break a pane of glass, isn't all of a sudden going to become a goal scorer at the NHL level. He is just like Mike Ribeiro.

 

[Gary Nylund]

What a bizarre post. Why do you think his shooting % will "normalize"? The kid does not have a pro level shot and probably never will. He is incredibly limited because of this. A pass first player, who has a shot that couldn't break a pane of glass, isn't all of a sudden going to become a goal scorer at the NHL level. He is just like Mike Ribeiro.

So you're saying we can expect Marner' SH% to stay below 4%.

 

[Mess]

So you're saying we can expect Marner' SH% to stay below 4%.

Last year Marner had a 10.8 SH% and recorded 176 shots.

So on average if Marner has a ~10% SH% annually and gets approximately 200 shots on goal in a season, he would hit around 20 goals a year to go with ~60 assists.

 

[wc17]

What a bizarre post. Why do you think his shooting % will "normalize"? The kid does not have a pro level shot and probably never will. He is incredibly limited because of this. A pass first player, who has a shot that couldn't break a pane of glass, isn't all of a sudden going to become a goal scorer at the NHL level. He is just like Mike Ribeiro.

Jesus, I'd say your post is the bizarre one...

Marner will be just fine. He's driving play, getting his assists (he would have more if JVR/Bozak had scored on a few tap ins Marner has set up), and having some bad luck with goal scoring (he could easily have 5 or 6 goals by now).

 

[Gary Nylund]

Last year Marner had a 10.8 SH% and recorded 176 shots.

So on average if Marner has a ~10% SH% annually and gets approximately 200 shots on goal in a season, he would hit around 20 goals a year to go with ~60 assists.

Sounds good to me.

 

[The Iceman]

108 goals in his last 145 junior games did not indicate a lack of scoring. After this season maybe this is to be reconsidered. A visit to play an extended stretch on the top PP might just help out his numbers. No doubt he is a pass first player. Even Mike Ribero did score 27 one year.

 

[IPS]

What a bizarre post. Why do you think his shooting % will "normalize"? The kid does not have a pro level shot and probably never will. He is incredibly limited because of this. A pass first player, who has a shot that couldn't break a pane of glass, isn't all of a sudden going to become a goal scorer at the NHL level. He is just like Mike Ribeiro.

Clearly someone has an inability to look up even basic stats.

He was shooting around 10-11% all of last year and finished with 19 goals in 77 games. If you're gonna troll at least do it right.

 

[ULF_55]

Jesus, I'd say your post is the bizarre one...

Marner will be just fine. He's driving play, getting his assists (he would have more if JVR/Bozak had scored on a few tap ins Marner has set up), and having some bad luck with goal scoring (he could easily have 5 or 6 goals by now).

And van Riemsdyk and Bozak would have more points if Marner was able to finish on a few taps in he's received.

Kind of like that for every player with regards to assists.

Hyman, Brown, Nylander, Matthews, Marner all rookies last year.

Marner's like Nylander is off his pace from last year, but I don't think it is a huge concern.

 

[Legion34]

And van Riemsdyk and Bozak would have more points if Marner was able to finish on a few taps in he's received.

Kind of like that for every player with regards to assists.

Hyman, Brown, Nylander, Matthews, Marner all rookies last year.

Marner's like Nylander is off his pace from last year, but I don't think it is a huge concern.

Nylander is on the exact same pace as last year. 21p in 31 games.

Can you honestly say that Marner has missed a bunch of tap ins to the level that JVR and especially bozak have?

 

[stickty111]

Nylander is on the exact same pace as last year. 21p in 31 games.

Can you honestly say that Marner has missed a bunch of tap ins to the level that JVR and especially bozak have?

He is just trying to excuse Bozak and JVR again, and as a result he blames Marner.

 

[Muston Atthews]

108 goals in his last 145 junior games did not indicate a lack of scoring. After this season maybe this is to be reconsidered. A visit to play an extended stretch on the top PP might just help out his numbers. No doubt he is a pass first player. Even Mike Ribero did score 27 one year.

He starts pretty much every PP and plays ~a minute. Often gets offensive zone starts too iirc

 

[ULF_55]

Nylander is on the exact same pace as last year. 21p in 31 games.

Can you honestly say that Marner has missed a bunch of tap ins to the level that JVR and especially bozak have?

Nylander on pace for 56 points. Last year had 61 points.

Marner on pace for 50 points. Marner on pace for 5 goals?

He's on Borgman's pace for goals, and you don't think he's missed some setups? Seriously, he isn't scoring and that's not on anyone but him.

He's on pace for more assists, so not sure where he's being hard done by his teammates.

 

[ACC1224]

Marner not scoring is on him, he certainly gets chances.
He'll be fine, he'll score a bunch and all will be fine.

 

[Mess]

Nylander on pace for 56 points. Last year had 61 points.

Marner on pace for 50 points. Marner on pace for 5 goals?

He's on Borgman's pace for goals, and you don't think he's missed some setups? Seriously, he isn't scoring and that's not on anyone but him.

He's on pace for more assists, so not sure where he's being hard done by his teammates.

Babcock plays both Marner and Nylander on the PP at the point where they have lots of time and space to operate and potentially pile on the points with the man up.

A pass to the point where the dman shoots it on net and JVR/Kadri bang in rebounds earns a 2nd assist and helps build up point totals and player confidence as contirbuting.

Actual points could be broken down into primary (goal & first assist) points and secondary (2nd assist) points, to see full impact and contribution. Some stats sites do exactly this.

 

[SprDaVE]

He's been great lately. A lot more confident and creating plays. I think his lack of goal scoring is making him pass more, suggesting maybe some confidence issues there, but the goals will start going in. There's no way a player his skill keeps shooting around 4%. It's crazy low. If I keep reading that he doesn't have a good shot, I might as well just stop reading anything else about your opinion.

 

[Community]

Nylander on pace for 56 points. Last year had 61 points.

Marner on pace for 50 points. Marner on pace for 5 goals?

He's on Borgman's pace for goals, and you don't think he's missed some setups? Seriously, he isn't scoring and that's not on anyone but him.

He's on pace for more assists, so not sure where he's being hard done by his teammates.

Do you not realize you are saying that the ability to put up goals is only on the player and not his linemates?

You think Matthews will score the same amount of goals with Martin x 2 on his wings vs backstrom and thornton?

 

[6ix]

Thought he put in the "work" this off season. Complete joke and muffin of a shot, you can't be a 1 trick pony in this league and be a star. I still voted he will become one because I think his shot will improve but its a joke right now.

 

[Its not your fault]

He's the star on top of my tree.

 

[ToneDog]

He's the star on top of my tree.

He's just small enough to fit

 

[Mr Hockey]

I think he is trying to play "wing" instead of playing like Mitch Marner. He is dominate when he plays that winger/center style.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

175 lbs ? Where ? on Jupiter ?
Apparently the league doesnt put them on a scale.

old pace: goal per 5 games.
new pace: goal per 16 games.

It's annoying to see him listed as a C.
lame.

 

[Tak7]

The soft, senseless play he made in the neutral zone is what drives Babcock and coaches nuts.

Seconds later the puck is in the back of the net.

He has to be so much better.

 

[LeafFever]

He'll get 70+ points next season easy. Maybe 80+.
Be patient people. He has elite talent.

 

[DarkKnight]

Mitch needs a reset, he's trying too hard and needs to simplify his game. That said, the need to rip a second year pro, that every other fan base would LOVE to have, is so embarrassing to me. It's obvious guys like Marner will figure it out, just like "pizzas up the middle" Kadri did. Critique, YES, lambast, get a life losers.

 

[thewave]

The production isn't even in question with Mitch. He produces fine. It's the dysfunction and all the blown plays, the overthinking. As a player he is good but it's very frustrating seeing someone pass when they should shoot, shoot when they should pass all night long, that or just send a pizza up the middle care of a behind the back dazzler.

I get super ticked off by Nylander moping around when he slumps and gets lazy and as frustrating as that is, it's nowhere near as frustrating as simple plays of choice being blown. If Marner made the correct choices and upped his shot he would be competing with Matthews not Nylander on this team. Knowing this, FRUSTRATING!