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When is he a UFA? I'd ideally like to maximize his cheaper cap years.
2029.

So yes you can ideally give him a 2 year deal now for 4.5M or something, but than you greatly risk paying him much more than 6M after those 2 years. He could demand 8M a year at that point if he keeps getting better, and again with the cap going up quickly. He's a rare type of player in the league.
 
2029.

So yes you can ideally give him a 2 year deal now for 4.5M or something, but than you greatly risk paying him much more than 6M after those 2 years. He could demand 8M a year at that point if he keeps getting better, and again with the cap going up quickly. He's a rare type of player in the league.
Power forwards are rare and I like Will. I just do not want to get too carried away by his 20-20 season. Some people regret giving Laf a big deal early last season. Also need to keep some cap flexibility for McDavid. :D
 
Power forwards are rare and I like Will. I just do not want to get too carried away by his 20-20 season. Some people regret giving Laf a big deal early last season. Also need to keep some cap flexibility for McDavid. :D
Haha, well if McDavid wins the cup this year we can kiss that dream goodbye, I would assume he stays if that happens.
 
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Im hoping the opposite. Some guys in pro sports have said they felt like they could leave with no unfinished business after bringing their city a ring.
I've long admired the New York Rangers from afar. I've admired them when I beat four of their guys on the ice and scored a goal. I've always wanted to be on an Original Six team. I want to help New York win a Cup, following in the footsteps of my idol Mark Messier. --Connor McDavid
 
Power forwards are rare and I like Will. I just do not want to get too carried away by his 20-20 season. Some people regret giving Laf a big deal early last season. Also need to keep some cap flexibility for McDavid. :D
He matched Laf's output this past season, at the same age, and he plays the way we'd like all of them to play. I think he should be secured long term before he really takes off.
 
I've long admired the New York Rangers from afar. I've admired them when I beat four of their guys on the ice and scored a goal. I've always wanted to be on an Original Six team. I want to help New York win a Cup, following in the footsteps of my idol Mark Messier. --Connor McDavid
Now that is the kind of attitude I want!!!
 
He matched Laf's output this past season, at the same age, and he plays the way we'd like all of them to play. I think he should be secured long term before he really takes off.
I'm not against it. I just want to make sure we do not get carried away like some say we did with Laf's contract last season. Plus we do have to keep our eye on that McDavid prize in 2026.
 
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I'm not very familiar with the contract rules. Do we need to lock him up to a big contract? Feels like Kakko is going in to his 7th year looking at another small contract as a restricted FA.
Kakko is stagnant unfortunately for him. I could see him improving a bit still, but not massively. He doesn't seem to have that drive in him.
Cuylle, I think, does. He will likely command an ever larger AAV the longer we let him go. I'd bet on him.
 
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I agree with everyone that wants to lock him up for longer term now. Despite the stretches over the last two seasons where his scoring goes absolutely out the window, there's still really projectable parts of his game that he's improved on year-over-year. He's much better as a straight-line player, so he should be an ideal fit with Sullivan and candidate for increased usage.
 
When is he a UFA? I'd ideally like to maximize his cheaper cap years.
His UFA year is 2029. He'll be 27 I think. I think it would be smart to lock him up now or next year before the cap rockets and he also puts up 30 goals while throwing 300 hits...
 
His UFA year is 2029. He'll be 27 I think. I think it would be smart to lock him up now or next year before the cap rockets and he also puts up 30 goals while throwing 300 hits...
That definitely makes sense but I'd prefer go cheap this year. Retain some flexibility not only cap wise but trade wise. At the same time let him know if he keeps playing this way we could revisit things as early as next season. Is that fair? Until McDavid re-signs with the Oilers he will be my target. :)
 
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That definitely makes sense but I'd prefer go cheap this year. Retain some flexibility not only cap wise but trade wise. At the same time let him know if he keeps playing this way we could revisit things as early as next season. Is that fair? Until McDavid re-signs with the Oilers he will be my target. :)
This is like betting 1 million dollars on Tong Po
 
That definitely makes sense but I'd prefer go cheap this year. Retain some flexibility not only cap wise but trade wise. At the same time let him know if he keeps playing this way we could revisit things as early as next season. Is that fair? Until McDavid re-signs with the Oilers he will be my target. :)
I mean EVERYONE would love McDavid in theory... But what will his AAV be? He's at 12.5 now... Matthews is at 13.25... So a MINIMUM of 14, which at "only" 2.5m more than Pan, who comes off the books, seems doable... but what if someone is offering 17... or 20?
 
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I mean EVERYONE would love McDavid in theory... But what will his AAV be? He's at 12.5 now... Matthews is at 13.25... So a MINIMUM of 14, which at "only" 2.5m more than Pan, who comes off the books, seems doable... but what if someone is offering 17... or 20?
I honestly do not have any idea. I do not follow the cap rule changes to know for sure but If its 17 I do it. I just tell myself that McD is worth more than CK and Zibs combined so there is most my money for him hypothetically speaking. I think of how many players it would take to trade for him or how many years we would have to draft to find a player like him. 17 without a trade or draft years? No problem. Here is your contract. :)
 
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I honestly do not have any idea. I do not follow the cap rule changes to know for sure but If its 17 I do it. I just tell myself that McD is worth more than CK and Zibs combined so there is most my money for him hypothetically speaking. I think of how many players it would take to trade for him or how many years we would have to draft to find a player like him. 17 without a trade or draft years? No problem. Here is your contract. :)
I'm not saying I would say no either. BUT IT IS A HUGE CHUNK. At least to start. Realistically in a few years 17m could be less a percentage of the cap than 14 is NOW. Guess we will see. EDM can still offer him 8 years at whatever anyone else would for 7 years.
 
I'm not saying I would say no either. BUT IT IS A HUGE CHUNK. At least to start. Realistically in a few years 17m could be less a percentage of the cap than 14 is NOW. Guess we will see. EDM can still offer him 8 years at whatever anyone else would for 7 years.
I agree with you but think about how many players and draft picks it would take to get him. In those terms he makes 17 mill cheap in my eyes. Also only being able to do 7 years instead of 8 is good for us imo if McDavid would take it. We only live once. I say if you can get the best player in the game go for it. Figure out the rest afterwards.
 
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I agree with you but think about how many players and draft picks it would take to get him. In those terms he makes 17 mill cheap in my eyes. Also only being able to do 7 years instead of 8 is good for us imo if McDavid would take it. We only live once. I say if you can get the best player in the game go for it. Figure out the rest afterwards.
Yeah dude. I wouldn't be complaining. And I agree 7 years IS an advantage in a way for the team, but not in terms of actually getting him signed.
A lot will depend on McDavid's outlook. Will he sign somewhere he just wants to BE for a less exorbitant amount? His career earnings are already estimated at 93million... his next contract will be at least another 100million.... If he invested even decently his family already has generational wealth. Is an extra couple of million a year even going to be at the top of his considerations? And this won't likely be his last contract if he doesn't want it to be. He'll be a UFA again at 36 or 37...
Crazy.
 
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He’s getting max.
As I understand it there IS no max cap on an individual salary...

EDIT: there is a percentage cap of 20% of the total Cap dollar limit, though not a dollar cap.
Projected Cap in 26-27 is 104mil so his likely max is just above 20mil per...
In theory, if he wanted to take some risk and be greedy, he could just keep signing 1 year deals at an ever increasing 20%... Not saying he would, or that it's smart, but its a wild possibility.
 
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As I understand it there IS no max cap on an individual salary...

EDIT: there is a percentage of 20% of the total Cap limit, though not a number cap.
Projected Cap in 26-27 is 104mil so his likely max is just above 20mil per...
In theory, if he wanted to take some risk and be greedy, he could just keep signing 1 year deals at an ever increasing 20%... Not saying he would, or that it's smart, but its a wild possibility.
Yea he never would. Someone will offer him max, 20M a year for 8 years. That's a guaranteed 160M, he's not going to risk that on 1 year contracts and god forbit he blows his knee out.
 
Yea he never would. Someone will offer him max, 20M a year for 8 years. That's a guaranteed 160M, he's not going to risk that on 1 year contracts and god forbit he blows his knee out.
Yeah, its just a wild weird "possibility." Only EDM can offer him 8 years though, right?
 
Assuming he gets 20% ($20.8M), that means that even if we get the massive $9.5M projected rise in cap going into 27-28, he still would account for 18.33% of the team's salary.

In Edmonton, he started on this current contract at 15.72% and the team has never really been to where they're in the conversation for cup favourites until the last couple years (when he's had a 14.97% and 14.2% share of the cap).

Plus, he'll likely be starting to slow down a bit early in the contract. I have a difficult time seeing a team paying McDavid that much and still being in the upper echelon of playoff teams. Hockey doesn't work that way.
 
Assuming he gets 20% ($20.8M), that means that even if we get the massive $9.5M projected rise in cap going into 27-28, he still would account for 18.33% of the team's salary.

In Edmonton, he started on this current contract at 15.72% and the team has never really been to where they're in the conversation for cup favourites until the last couple years (when he's had a 14.97% and 14.2% share of the cap).

Plus, he'll likely be starting to slow down a bit early in the contract. I have a difficult time seeing a team paying McDavid that much and still being in the upper echelon of playoff teams. Hockey doesn't work that way.
Maybe he will see that too and sign somewhere for an amount that gives the team (and hence HIMSELF) a chance to actually win a cup...
Or maybe not.
 
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Maybe he will see that too and sign somewhere for an amount that gives the team (and hence HIMSELF) a chance to actually win a cup...
Or maybe not.
If Shesty bounces back to a top 3 goalie and McDavid gets here by 2026 then I would like our chances to compete. We could have the 2 most important positions covered. Then when Makar comes we will really be cooking! :D
 
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