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I don't ELC count slide years (U20) as against players staying at home. Mainly because of the CHL rule that forces their players into the NHL or CHL option. After that they need to be where their parent NHL club wants them.
The AHL is a step up in competition for all other leagues. The only other league that is on par with the AHL is the KHL. The reason you want your players in the AHL over the KHL is because they can learn the NA hockey style, systems, rink size, culture shock, and are availble for easy NHL callups.
The AHL team being a tire fire is a different matter.
-Part of that is due to the best Wild (age 20+) prospects not being in the system.
-Part of that is due to team drafting.
-Part is due to bad team building by the GM.
-Part is due to coaching staff quality.
Iowa would be a completely differnet team if they had a top line of Yurov-Marat K-Ohgren (I don't think any of them are currently more than fringe NHLers) for the season.
I aslo don't see the point of calling up a kid and just pressboxing him in the NHL. Either play them or don't call them up.
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And all of the above is why the GM absolutely has to have flexibility with prospects. If Guerin is out there telling Mike Russo that Yurov absolutely will never have to play in Des Moines like those other losers, he's doing a very bad job as GM, both from a press relations perspective and an asset management perspective. Dorofeyev is probably a pretty good comp for Yurov actually -- maybe even a best case scenario. Ridiculous to treat any non-blue chip guy like a superstar before he's played an NHL game.
You don't seem to get it. Guerin has practically 0 to do with that decision.
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It's been explained to you multiple times why it's out of his hands. For some reason you just keep ignoring it.
Ohgren is scoring at close to a P/PG rate in the AHL, yet hardly set the NHL on fire when he was up. Yurov is scoring at .5 P/PG in the KHL. The KHL might be a better league, but not that much better. I am just saying that we shouldn't expect Yurov to come in and be a top 6 player right away. It is far more likely that he has an Ohgren like trajectory in his early career.
Or they both come in like Rossi last year and put up 0.5 PPG in the NHL. That would be quite the boost to our scoring depth
Rossi was basically P/PG in the AHL from the beginning, but it took him two seasons before he was ready to be a legit NHL'er. He was also the highest draft pick of the three by a long shot, and considered the most talented.
It takes time. Yurov has spent a good deal of his time this year injured.
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I don’t think KHL stats alone are a great way to evaluate a prospect. When I watch him he looks like he could play in the NHL right now. He’s a decent skater and has above average skill shot combo and is a pretty smart player. I don’t think he has any truly elite skills though and those are required to be a legit difference maker in the NHL. He’s projects more as a traditional 2nd line player, either center or winger, for me.
Meh, that’s just one angle. The doom and gloom routine with prospects is tiresome. These guys are both likely to be NHL ready in the fall.
When did i ever say they wouldn't be? I get tired of people saying Yurov will be the 1st line C before he has ever played a minute in the league.
As for doom and gloom... have you watched this team recently? I am just being realistic.
Nobody is saying Yurov is a 1C. If he’s a 3rd line wing who can chip in 35 points and skate, that’s already a noticeable improvement.
It’s the “well, even Marat had 50 points in the KHL” or the “Rossi did this, so Ohgren should’ve done that” or “Faber didn’t even play the PP in college” type stuff that gets annoying.
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Nobody has said that. You are flat-out wrong if you think the GM of an NHL team has no say over where players play -- provided they don't have a clause in their contract that stipulates otherwise. Yurov has no such clause. Thus, it IS in his hands and that is a fact. If Bombadir or some other clown thinks Yurov is too good for the AHL, maybe so, but that remains to be seen. If you think Yurov is a better prospect than, for example, Leon Draisaitl or dozens of other NHLers who played in the AHL, you're f***ing nuts. It should absolutely be on the table and only a moron would make a promise like that.
And he can just stay in the khl if he is told the wild will be sending him to Iowa for awhile. Or he can go back to the khl the second he gets put in Iowa.
It has been reported yurov doesn't want to play in Iowa. So you think the gm can go to bad you are coming here and going to Iowa? Yurov has the leverage here unless you think guerin has time to wait out yurov. (Which I don't think he does)
Oh, I can see that. With Yurov, i think it depends on whether he is a wing, or a C. If the latter, the defensive duties at C will probably lower his point totals. Would love for one of Haight, Heidt, or Bankier to develop into a legit middle six C, but that's asking for a lot.
The thing is you just don't know, some kids take time and some quickly figure it out. He might not be ready, he might come in and contributed 30 or 40 points, less of a chance but he could light it up a bit too.
I figure he has an off-season to heal up and can't be worse then a lot guys we have been running all year.
I am curious to see if Lambos or Spacek challenge for a 7D role. I love Bogo, but he’s been rough lately.
I think Heidt offers a nice Zuccarello replacement down the line. Don’t see us rolling with him an Rossi as Top 9 Cs, so think Heidt ends up on the W
I have a feeling him and Rossi will be on another team for some of the offseason
Seems bizarre to me that BG would trade away two young players that are actually showing a pulse.
