Proposal: Wild and Habs

[Lapa]

I'd love to get Pacioretty, but it depends on what we have to add.

 

[jwrocks1]

First ever proposal, but wondering...
Pacioretty for Coyle, with a reasonable + from Minnesota...
Salaries are somewhat close, but Coyle would fit in well with Habs... I know Max is captain, but I don't think that lasts past this season... we all know Price is the real C, and I'd rather see Weber wear it than max... also, good for Pacioretty in that he has typically performed best as a supporting member to strong rosters... I think a good fit in minny... pominville and niederreiter are good top 6 rw, and Granlund looks better at c than lw...

Thoughts?

this is ridiculous.

if Price is the real captain as you claim, then why does it matter if Weber wears the C instead of Pacioretty ? just leave the letters where they are and stop falling for the idiotic media conspiracies.....they lost their usual targets in Subban and Eller and have simply moved onto the next one and you are mindlessly following them......you even admitted in your OP that the letter doesn't matter because it's Price's team.....so why trade Pacioretty?

Besides, the Wild won't want to give up the pieces to get him and they are already set on LW....

 

[57special]

That's what the Wild need, another aging captain.

 

[jwrocks1]

That's what the Wild need, another aging captain.

so at 27 does he need the walker now, or when he turns 28?

 

[57special]

MTL fans are tripping over themselves to get rid of Pacioretty. Get mad at them, not me.

 

[Kamiccolo]

It won't be worth it with the significant plus added onto Coyle. That's what people are saying, along with other reasons. The trade isn't Coyle for Patches straight up.

Team need aside, there isn't an argument you can make that justify this trade for the Habs, or to say Coyle > Patches.

This trade is laughable for the habs, doesn't make Coyle a bad player, just not as good as Patches.

 

[hockeyheadlines]

MTL fans are tripping over themselves to get rid of Pacioretty. Get mad at them, not me.

No they're not. As a matter of fact, we're mostly disapproving the proposed trade.

Why would we trade a cap friendly, 35 goal/year scorer?

 

[tony d]

Montreal's not giving up Patches for Coyle unless it's a significant add from Minnesota.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Montreal's not giving up Patches for Coyle unless it's a significant add from Minnesota.

Which is why the Wild politely say no thanks and hang up.

/thread

 

[gwh]

21/21 is borderline 2nd/3rd line.

15 5v5 goals is top60 in the league for forwards.

22 5v5 primary points is top90.

NHL has 90 "1st line" forwards. BTW Henrik Sedin is out of top100.

 

[Minnesota]

Minnesota's top-6 is already over-the-hill... Koivu (33), Pominville (33), Parise (32), Staal (31).

I'd love to add Pacioretty (27), but at the expense of Coyle+ (likely another young player)? I don't think that decision bodes well for the Wild's ability to compete in 3-5 years.

 

[gwh]

First ever proposal, but wondering...
Pacioretty for Coyle, with a reasonable + from Minnesota..
Thoughts?

1. MaxPac had THE best contract in the league. The contract for 35goal scorer should be 7mil AAV. Maxpac has 4.5mil contract for 3 seasons.

The contract AAV discount is worth probably at least a high 1st.

2. MaxPac is worth a 35g scorer, which is allstar player on 3 year contract.

So:

You proposal should be at least Parise/Suter (with a takeback after 3 years) plus 1st.

In other words, Wild doesn't have enough chips to trade him unless you want a massive pack medium quality prospects.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

21/21 is borderline 2nd/3rd line.

Last year was tied for 24th among RW's for goals and I believe top 30 for points.

Max Pacioretty is one of the best LW in the whole nhl.

Coyle's best season is borderline 3rd/2nd line production. I understand you like him and all but valuing a trade on a projected (exagerated if you ask me) production is just silly.

Right now, if you want Pacioretty for Coyle, you will need to add a great asset.

And that is exactly what I said in my first sentence.

 

[beowulf]

Makes no sense for the Habs.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Team need aside, there isn't an argument you can make that justify this trade for the Habs, or to say Coyle > Patches.

This trade is laughable for the habs, doesn't make Coyle a bad player, just not as good as Patches.

My posts:

I don't see the reason for Montreal to do this. All you listed were weak reasons for why you don't think Patches should be captain. Not a good reason to trade one of your better players.

It won't be worth it with the significant plus added onto Coyle. That's what people are saying, along with other reasons. The trade isn't Coyle for Patches straight up.

Please read before commenting.

 

[rynryn]

21/21 is borderline 2nd/3rd line.

well that's fitting since that was bouncing all over the lineup playing different wings and C on different lines. He's got a lot of versatility. A lot of people here don't really know what kind of numbers correlate with depth chart position, as evidenced by you. And to be fair, every time a "first line center" proposal comes up. Inevitably it seems like there are only 15 first line centers in the league and about 60 top six forwards.

 

[Legend123]

oh my what a horrible trade

 

[ginovegas]

add Nino and we would have a solid fondation to start the talks

 

[NotYou]

Don't want to make a reasonable add to coyle so I'd pass. Would be a nice player to get though

 

[Legend123]

add Nino and we would have a solid fondation to start the talks

no need for nino esp when massively downgrading from pacs to coyle (lol). Also why the hell would the habs kill off the chemistry pacs and Galchenyuk have or pacs and pleks have just to add coyle. Nino would play third line minutes.

 

[jacks*]

Unless the + is massive this is an easy no from the Habs.

 

[rynryn]

of course the Wild would have to add a lot. That's why we won't do it. I'm guessing it'd be some combo of high pick and another young player. So no. As other's have pointed out our prospect pool is a bit thin in the talent department right now, and Patches would make us older.