Proposal: Wild and Habs
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MMC
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MMC
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Montreal needs top 6 wingers. They finally have 3 in Patches, Gallagher, and Radulov. Coyle is not a top 6 winger. Montreal does not need Coyle, if anything they need another Pacioretty
Dr Jan Itor
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Pacioretty has substantially more value than Coyle at the moment, so the + would have to be pretty substantial.
However, my personal opinion is that Coyle is on the precipice of a run of 30+30 seasons (or 25+25 on the low end), is only 24 (compared to MaxPac about to turn 28) and has 4 years until contract end (compared to 3).
For those reasons, along with disagreeing with some of your reasoning regarding Granlund and Pominville, I would decline.
However, my personal opinion is that Coyle is on the precipice of a run of 30+30 seasons (or 25+25 on the low end), is only 24 (compared to MaxPac about to turn 28) and has 4 years until contract end (compared to 3).
For those reasons, along with disagreeing with some of your reasoning regarding Granlund and Pominville, I would decline.
Dr Jan Itor
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This I'd accept as reasonable declining... idont necessarily agree with your Coyle projection, I think it's a bit high, but I understand the reasoning
And to folks saying Coyle isn't a top six winger... feel free to ignore this thread the same way you ignore charlie coyle...
I don't see the reason for Montreal to do this. All you listed were weak reasons for why you don't think Patches should be captain. Not a good reason to trade one of your better players.
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He may be but he's also a top 6 winger who never topped 20 goals and 40pts
The Habs lose way too much goal production in this deal
easily declined
21g/21a last year for Coyle. Not near Patches production, but still a top-6 winger.
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Well it is all dependant on what the + is. Montreal still has a good team. I could see themmaking a trade if they were in a retool or rebuild mode. Not ideal for Minnesota either. We are thin with right handed top 6 quality forwards.
Pominville is no longer a good top 6 and the Granlund thing is the exact opposite of reality. He's much better at W.
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Benstheman
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Max Pacioretty is one of the best LW in the whole nhl.
Coyle's best season is borderline 3rd/2nd line production. I understand you like him and all but valuing a trade on a projected (exagerated if you ask me) production is just silly.
Right now, if you want Pacioretty for Coyle, you will need to add a great asset.
Your fanbase was the one offering the trade.
We have no interest in Pacioretty because this is our LW group:
Parise
Granlund
Nino
Zucker
Our RW Group is:
Coyle
Pulkkinen
Stewart
Pominville
We are much weaker on the right. Coyle also has a year extra on his deal and is almost 4 years younger. We'll stick with what we have. /thread
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Your fanbase was the one offering the trade.
We have no interest in Pacioretty because this is our LW group:
Parise
Granlund
Nino
Zucker
Our RW Group is:
Coyle
Pulkkinen
Stewart
Pominville
We are much weaker on the right. Coyle also has a year extra on his deal and is almost 4 years younger. We'll stick with what we have. /thread
I couldn't care less if you need Pacioretty or not or who did proposed the trade. Value wise, and that was my point, Pacioretty >>> Coyle.
It won't be worth it with the significant plus added onto Coyle. That's what people are saying, along with other reasons. The trade isn't Coyle for Patches straight up.
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