Why is the Michigan Move considered “disrespectful”?

[Sendhelp2Anaheim]

Sopel literally said he hates zegeas because he disrespectfully laughs in other guys faces while showing them up, not because he’s skilled or does the Michigan…… not saying I agree, but that was his in context point.

Now the part about kicking his kids off the ice if they do it, is ridiculous, though kinda funny.

It’s cause zegras shows personality, and doesn’t sugar coat things like normal nhlers in the past.

 

[SEALBound]

Right because players are getting two handed in the face any time they show offensive talent.

*rolls eyes*

Sure, I guess bud. You win.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

It’s cause zegras shows personality, and doesn’t sugar coat things like normal nhlers in the past.

That's not why people seem to hate Zegras

 

[RobBrown4PM]

I think when it works, it works.

But when you try to pull it like the Jr. Canadians did, and fail, you fall off the side of a f***ing cliff made of 100% pure hubris, while your mouth if stuffed with hotdogs made from crow

 

[Allie Kitsune]

Once they've picked the puck up on their stick, can a defenseman legally hit them? Or would that be interference?

 

[Johnny Rifle]

Once they've picked the puck up on their stick, can a defenseman legally hit them? Or would that be interference?

Yes, that would be considered possession.

 

[DatDude44]

It’s cause zegras shows personality, and doesn’t sugar coat things like normal nhlers in the past.

ok, not sure how that's relevant to what i said. Sopel is just coming from the respect side of things. I've never seen zegras myself laugh in other dudes faces after he does something filthy, so, i don't really care, i like zegras alot, i think he's great for the game.

 

[stevo61]

Countless wrap arounds fail and its no big deal but a Michigan fails and people lose their minds. Its actually hilarious. Its a legit way to score on goalies that are so good at covering the bottom of the net and getting post to post these days. People who complain about it just like to complain. The Johnson goal was a beauty all around and if he goes low its a low percentage shot Sorokin saves and we never talk about that play again. With what actually happened Johnson gets a goal added to the statsheet and a highlight that will be played for awhile

 

[DatDude44]

Once they've picked the puck up on their stick, can a defenseman legally hit them? Or would that be interference?

of course, they can also jsut stick there stick out like fake sword fighting and as they swing it through jsut get in the way, cutting off the angle of the puck into the net.

If your in position, it's pretty easy to defend, it's super difficult when it's used with deception or just super quick off a rush like Kent Johnsons goal of the year. Hence the evolution of the "michigan" becoming the "scoop" where you don't bend down and show your flipping it on to your heel like the OG michigan

No reason for it not to be in the game, it's fun, guys miss it all the time too.

 

[snag]

Mixed feelings on it. It is hotdogging....but the name of the game is to score goals.

That said....
Goalies need to do better gaurding the post.
Defensemen need to do better and not allow guys the time and space the move requires.


Shootouts piss me off more than the Michigan. But oooooh the skill!!!!!!!

 

[bossram]

It's hot dogging but I don't agree with the masses that it's disrespectful. Just like I didn't agree with the takes on Linus Omark and the spin o Rama. It's not a glitch goal or cheap tactic or else everybody would be doing it

It's not hot dogging. With how the young players in today's game utilize it, it's a legitimate scoring chance.

If no defender is pressuring you behind the net, and the goalie doesn't have the top of the post sealed, why wouldn't you attempt it? If you can pull it off, it's a goal.

Mixed feelings on it. It is hotdogging....but the name of the game is to score goals.

That said....
Goalies need to do better gaurding the post.
Defensemen need to do better and not allow guys the time and space the move requires.


Shootouts piss me off more than the Michigan. But oooooh the skill!!!!!!!

If it's used to score goals effectively, then it is literally not hot dogging.

The Michigan is a legitimate scoring chance attempt. It's not showboating for the sake of it. There are opportunities where the Michigan is just simply the best play possible.

 

[thethirdhockeyman91]

Because its a lacrosse move not a hockey move. I equate it to trying to pick up the puck with your glove and throwing it in the net handball style, or kicking it soccer style. It should be banned immediately.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Because its a lacrosse move not a hockey move. I equate it to trying to pick up the puck with your glove and throwing it in the net handball style, or kicking it soccer style. It should be banned immediately.

But those would be illegal in hockey, while the Michigan breaks no rules.

 

[Shocker]

I don't much care about Zegras, horribly overrated and kind of an annoying dude, but i have no qualms with the Michigan.

I do laugh at the oldschool guys who actually just HATE Zegras, that's bit funny.

 

[Sugi21]

Because it’s a hotdog move I don’t really care for it as a fan but I can imagine opposing players not approving of it and I don’t mind seeing hot doggers getting a little physical action lol

 

[Killer Orca]

Hockey is an old traditional game and hates change. The flash of the Michigan is what the old guys hate not the play itself people need to move on with the times. Hence why the game is being left behind while the NBA is moving forward by leaps and bounds. The new era loves flash it's a look at me world now. I have nothing against it if you've got the skill and ability use it.

And as long as they are covering their ass they have fashion sense

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It is a matter of opinion. No point in singling people out to argue it.

God I hate this probably more than anything.

 

[Sugi21]

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Once they've picked the puck up on their stick, can a defenseman legally hit them? Or would that be interference?

As long as he has possession of the puck he’s good to hit

 

[ProcessThis]

Because the plugs don't have the mitts to pull the move off and it frustrates them.

 

[bossram]

Because its a lacrosse move not a hockey move. I equate it to trying to pick up the puck with your glove and throwing it in the net handball style, or kicking it soccer style. It should be banned immediately.

No. It's completely legal.

It is a matter of opinion. No point in singling people out to argue it.

This is a discussion board. I don't find the "hot dogging" arguments persuasive. It's not hot dogging if the purpose is for legitimate in-game effectiveness, rather than just showing off. There are situations where the Michigan is truly the most effective offensive play.

Because it’s a hotdog move I don’t really care for it as a fan but I can imagine opposing players not approving of it and I don’t mind seeing hot doggers getting a little physical action lol

It's not hot dogging.

If defenders want to get physical/harass players behind the net to prevent the Michigan, they should do that.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Different sports have different moronic unwritten rules. This is hockey’s answer to “don’t try to score if you’re winning” or “don’t swing at the first pitch if the pitcher just allowed a HR”.

This one might be the dumbest of all, because there’s not really a showboating component to it. On a play like this:

There’s no chance of scoring on a traditional wraparound. The lacrosse goal is the only scoring play available. You’re supposed to pass up the goal and potentially hand your team an L so you don’t hurt someone’s feelings by scoring? Please.

 

[stevo61]

How the hell is it hot dogging . Is the elite puck handlers toying with average players hot dogging? Where is that magical line for some people

 

[BruinLVGA]

It is a way to get the puck into the net and it is a legal hockey move within the rules of the game, the same as any other attempt to score. Why do some people lose their load at how classless and disrespectful it is to attempt to score in such a manner as opposed to a different matter? Are attacking players supposed to arbitrarily decide to limit their scoring opportunities by removing one potential means to score in order to avoid hurting someone’s feelings? Why is physical punishment outside the confines of preventing the attempt more justified in this instance for this particular attempt?

Probs, makes the d-men look like idiots. And they obviously don‘t like that. That‘d be my guess.

 

[Machinehead]

I think it's a bit cheap. To me, carrying the puck on your stick fundamentally goes against what hockey is. I'm not sure it should be legal.

I don't see it as disrespectful at all.

 

[stevo61]

Probs, makes the d-men look like idiots. And they obviously don‘t like that. That‘d be my guess.

Funny that Sopel did a better job of that with his mouth than if someone had scored a Michigan against him

 

[Primary Assist]

If goalies and defensemen hate it so much they should just legally swat at the puck as hard as they can when it's airborne. When someone breaks a jaw or loses a nose then the league can ban it