Why is the Michigan Move considered “disrespectful”?

[WarriorofTime]

It is a way to get the puck into the net and it is a legal hockey move within the rules of the game, the same as any other attempt to score. Why do some people lose their load at how classless and disrespectful it is to attempt to score in such a manner as opposed to a different matter? Are attacking players supposed to arbitrarily decide to limit their scoring opportunities by removing one potential means to score in order to avoid hurting someone’s feelings? Why is physical punishment outside the confines of preventing the attempt more justified in this instance for this particular attempt?

 

[Stealth1616]

Probably mostly comes from people who could never do it/ don’t have the skill to do it

 

[wmupreds]

You're not going to get a logical answer

 

[JianYang]

This move had made some sort of weird evolution.

The original goal back in the 90's, the talk then was mostly like "wow, I've never seen that before". Now it's evolved into something else.

One question I have though, if someone does this but accidentally hits the goalie in the head (even though it would be under the crossbar) , should that be penalized?

 

[KovalchukFistPump]

I guess it's annoying when people make a big deal of it. I guess it's also a bit dangerous if you miss and have your stick too high?

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Your premise is off...

Who says it's "disrespectful" besides one hasbeen boomer here and there like Brent Sopel etc.

The narrative on this webstie with them is that they are just kinda boring despite people and media gushing over them. But most don't have a problem with the goals themselves.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I honestly don't get it either.

... You're basically saying you're targeting the player because he embarrassed you defensively. If you wanna hit him to stop him from doing it, fine. That's just good defense.

 

[tny760]

i don't really have a problem with it, but it's a flashy play and anything flashy is gonna get some pearl clutching

don't want it to happen, defend your posts and the goal line. natural tactical evolution, someone finds a way to pierce a defense, the defense needs to adjust rather than crying about it

at the same time, if you're gonna regularly do flashy stuff you need to be prepared to defend yourself

 

[DatDude44]

Sopel literally said he hates zegeas because he disrespectfully laughs in other guys faces while showing them up, not because he’s skilled or does the Michigan…… not saying I agree, but that was his in context point.

Now the part about kicking his kids off the ice if they do it, is ridiculous, though kinda funny.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

It seems weird to me how you can't even slightly redirect a puck in with your glove or hand but you can pick up and carry the puck on your stick like lacrosse, but w.e, the logic in the former is it's against the spirit of the game.

Also, on a lot of those goals you are probably gonna make at least some contact with the goalies mask with your stick as you shove or swing it in. That's the only reason i could think of how it could possibly be deemed 'disrespectful'.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Any 14 year old kid now can do it seems like. It’s not hard at all with some practice. It’s just it looks tacky on the old heads because they played in a clutch and grab slash era of hockey.

In todays game, if you were to obliterate a player in the midst of performing a lacrosse move, chances are you’ll get a charging or interference penalty. You could try and bat it out mid air, however, you’ll likely end up taking a slashing penalty, or high sticking penalty if you come up too high.

I’d have to think part of the reason old heads hate it is the fact that it’s almost like a real life glitch, where defenders can’t really do much about it, and goalies just can’t or react as fast enough to cover that upper corner of the net in time. Goalies also can’t see you performing the lacrosse move until you’ve almost already completed it. There’s also the risk of you jamming your stick into the goalies mask, which can also be a hazard.

To me, the only difference between a lacrosse goal and a wrap around, is the execution and placement. With one you go low, the other you go high. That’s literally it.

 

[Boud]

People don't like to be humiliated.

It shouldn't be humiliating but that's how people think.

 

[Rob Brown]

I guess it's annoying when people make a big deal of it. I guess it's also a bit dangerous if you miss and have your stick too high?

No different than a player standing in front of the net to try to tip a puck in. Your stick has the potential to go too high there as well.

 

[bleedgreen]

Almost no one actually does the Michigan, they’re lacrosse style goals but I think it isn’t as offensive to the current generation of NHLers like it was in the past. Obviously the older generation hated it because it wasn’t their way to be showboats, but most of them are out of the league by now. I think your own teammates are more likely to get annoyed at you if you’re wasting needed scoring chances trying to pull something fancy off.

 

[dirtydanglez]

no goalie or defender wants to be posterized.

 

[bleedgreen]

Any 14 year old kid now can do it now it seems like. It’s not hard at all with some practice. It’s just it looks tacky on the old heads because they played in a clutch and grab, slash and crash era of hockey.

In todays game, if you were to obliterate a player in the midst of performing a lacrosse move, chances are you’ll get a charging or interference penalty. You could try and bat it out mid air, however, you’ll likely end up taking a slashing penalty, or high sticking penalty if you come up too high.

I’d have to think part of the reason old heads hate it is the fact that it’s almost like a real life glitch, where defenders can’t really do much about it, and goalies just can’t or react as fast enough to cover that upper corner of the net in time. Goalies also can’t see you performing the lacrosse move until you’ve almost already completed it. There’s also the risk of you jamming your stick into the goalies mask, which can also be a hazard.

To me, the only difference between a lacrosse goal and a wrap around, is the execution and placement. With one you go low, the other you go high. That’s literally it.

Fourth liners could pull the puck up Michigan style onto their wood sticks and hand it the ref that way in the mid 80’s, so a lot that gets said that it’s just old farts being jealous because they couldn’t do it is just crap. I agree, any 14 year old can and does do it now regularly.

If it keeps becoming the norm people will learn how to defend it I think. Typically you know the guys who are going to try it, some anticipation should start kicking in.

 

[Rob Brown]

no goalie or defender wants to be posterized.

There are plenty of ways for a goalie or defender to be embarrassed by a forward, but for some reason it's only this specific kind of goal that seems to piss people off.

 

[DatDude44]

Any 14 year old kid now can do it seems like. It’s not hard at all with some practice. It’s just it looks tacky on the old heads because they played in a clutch and grab slash era of hockey.

In todays game, if you were to obliterate a player in the midst of performing a lacrosse move, chances are you’ll get a charging or interference penalty. You could try and bat it out mid air, however, you’ll likely end up taking a slashing penalty, or high sticking penalty if you come up too high.

I’d have to think part of the reason old heads hate it is the fact that it’s almost like a real life glitch, where defenders can’t really do much about it, and goalies just can’t or react as fast enough to cover that upper corner of the net in time. Goalies also can’t see you performing the lacrosse move until you’ve almost already completed it. There’s also the risk of you jamming your stick into the goalies mask, which can also be a hazard.

To me, the only difference between a lacrosse goal and a wrap around, is the execution and placement. With one you go low, the other you go high. That’s literally it.

All you have to do is hold your stick out and then the puck has no angle to the net, if your in decent position, it’s super easy to defend, the issue is anticipating it mid game, they’ll learn….hopefully

 

[MMC]

skill issue

 

[AvroArrow]

Because hockey is filled with people that want garbage plugs to be successful and not the actual guys with skill

 

[Hennessy]

People were calling players who moved the puck between their legs "disrespectful" not all that long ago. Now it's just routine.
There's a certain segment of traditionalists who are basically bitter yahoos with nothing better to do than complain about the sport.

 

[Ovechkins vodka]

I don't know if the move itself is "disrespectful" but more who is pulling it off and how they act. I really don't recall this being that much of an issue when Forsberg and Svechnikov did it. Agree or disagree, Zegras seems just really easy to hate for a lot

 

[Victoire HuGo]

It's hot dogging but I don't agree with the masses that it's disrespectful. Just like I didn't agree with the takes on Linus Omark and the spin o Rama. It's not a glitch goal or cheap tactic or else everybody would be doing it

 

[dirtydanglez]

There are plenty of ways for a goalie or defender to be embarrassed by a forward, but for some reason it's only this specific kind of goal that seems to piss people off.

since when. goalies and dman will give a forward a whack for way less that than.

 

[Rob Brown]

since when. goalies and dman will give a forward a whack for way less that than.

Since when what? Players have plenty of moves up their sleeves now like going between their legs and such. I don't recall people whining about those like they do the Michigan.