Scandinavian league or Champions league or whatever is created only if KHL will agree with it. Of course, such league will be control by KHL, not Euros. Like it or not.
Don't care about champions league, but KHL would have about as much say in a scandinavian league as they have in the swedish league, which is 0. We don't care if KHL has money or not, it does not matter to us. Sure if KHL wants to continue to overpay 4th line NHL players or players that does not fit at all in NHL, they'll continue doing that, it doesn't matter, a scandinavian leage would not exist to compete with NHL.
But hey, it's cute you think KHL is relevant over here.
your point?
Bolded part Do you realize that we (Medvescak) were pee blood in order to get enough money for one season in EBEL. Only reason why we were so successfull is that we have had better bottom lines than most of Austrian, Slovenian and Hungarian as well, teams simply because borderline AHL-ers and strong ECHL-ers are better than some Austrian/Slovenian juniors or their 3rd tier senior players.
It is true that club will financially grow compared to EBEL days, but until some rich Russian, who likes to spend summer vacation in Dubrovnik or Hvar, doesn't buy us we are going to be one of the most poor clubs in KHL when it comes to budget. Said that, making playoffs will be like winning GC for us.
qft, especially the bolded part.
and i think that similar thing could happen in the khl, because strong ahl-ers are better than most khl 3rd liners aside from top teams (ie ska, cska, dynamo...). if mark french find good chemistry, i wouldn't be surprised medveščak end up in playoffs.
Hahahahaha, is this your reaction when you're being proved wrong? Either this or just leave the section all together (like when we laughed at you so hard you stopped writing in the swedish section)? Oh god.
My point is that what you write is wrong.
Maybe you wanted to write KHL?scandinavian leage would not exist to compete with NHL.
As i know. Players who came from NA to LEV, are "bordering" NHL-AHLers. So statemant "KHLers are strong AHLers" fits for most teams. And Medvesak can get place at play off like Slovan did it. I useually wish some (limeted) success for all newcomersThe problem is that there are only 8 playoff spots in the west, and you've already named 3 contenders for them, which leaves only 5 spots left and a lot more teams who's 3rd lines are consisted of better players than your average strong ahl-ers. Lokomotiv, Atlant, Slovan, Lev, Donbass, Minsk. So, uh, no, strong ahlers aren't better than KHL 3rd liners in most of KHL teams. And if you're relying on just strong ahlers don't expect to get into playoffs.
The problem is that there are only 8 playoff spots in the west, and you've already named 3 contenders for them, which leaves only 5 spots left and a lot more teams who's 3rd lines are consisted of better players than your average strong ahl-ers. Lokomotiv, Atlant, Slovan, Lev, Donbass, Minsk. So, uh, no, strong ahlers aren't better than KHL 3rd liners in most of KHL teams. And if you're relying on just strong ahlers don't expect to get into playoffs.
Ok, you claim I am wrong. If I understand it, you claim "KHL will/would have no word in creating Scandinavian league" Do you really believe it?
Maybe you wanted to write KHL?
KHL does not need league, Scandinavian league, which would compete directly or indirectly with KHL. This league would be "stronger" than SHL, maybe would not have money to compete with KHL (salaries), but would be strong enough not to allow their players to go to KHL as SM-Liiga players have been doing nowadays (exodus if you want). Look at SHL, not so many SHLers go to KHL because no release clauses (or SHL club does not agree with releasing or price). KHL needs "SM-Liiga model" (good player coming to KHL for small amount of money/btw. behaviour of NHL but this KHL´s is based on market not PTA), not "SHL model". That is one of reasons why KHL will do everything to stop any attempt of Nordic/Euro/Scandinavian league.
You can think that KHL would have no word in process of creating such league, I am fine with it, your opinion. Reality is not like that.
Kummola is "big friend" of KHL. You need Kummola to create Scandinavian league.
Fasel is "big friend" of KHL. You need Fasel to create Euro league.
Who knows? Maybe there is more "friends" of KHL in Finland, or Germany, Sweden.
Ask yourself why hated KHL expanded to central Europe within 3 yrs and to Finland within 5 yrs since creating KHL (2008) .... and why ET is a competition without plan for future? I have followed both, I know what is goal of KHL, how KHL wants to develop, but I have no idea about ET.
Etc etc
The most important questions for you. Why does not Scandinavian league exist? Would be Scandinavian league good for Sweden/Finland or KHL? Why would Sweden/Finland want to create Scandinavian league (market, money, tv-deals)? What league (KHL) would not like Scandinavian league? The same Qs about ET/Champions league
Politics, you need to know how politics work if you want to reply correctly.
Kummola is "big friend" of KHL. You need Kummola to create Scandinavian league.
Kummola is a big friend of money. Period. He himself has however never personally tried to create any leagues, he leaves it to someone else. A Nordic league was something that Finnish and Swedish leagues delved in. The only thing holding that one up is that the Swedes have not asked the cleaners at Malmö's arena what they think about it.
I'm only speculating about things, and I don't know the motivations of those involved, but here is what I'm guessing:
- KHL wants to be more competitive with NHL, and to do that, it must become a Pan-European league.
- As a KHL becomes stronger, it can offer more to players and fans. More countries involved may mean broader appeal. I like the fact that many countries are represented in the league.
- KHL is a young league. It has not been around very long, but has made strong progress in a short time. Remember, the NHL started small and has grown over decades.
- More teams from more countries may potentially lead to greater television revenues, and more exposure, which is good for the all the teams and countries. It may also help grow the sport across Europe. (At least I hope so.)
- A larger, stronger league in Europe could give the best European players another option besides the NHL. Many may still want to come to N America, but some may want to play closer to home.
I don't know whether a larger KHL will have a negative or positive effect on hockey in each European country, but it is possible the effect will be different in each country depending on how their current leagues are run. My guess is, that the best players coming out of each country will eventually want to play in either the NHL or the KHL (if it continues to gain strength). This isn't really much different than it is now, except players can choose between two top leagues instead of one. Currently, for example, most of the top Finnish players end up in the NHL even if they play for a while in the top Finnish league. Now some may elect KHL, but it may not change the overall dynamic in the Finnish league.
I watched the KHL and German elite league games on the Web during the NHL lockout and continued to follow them even after the NHL returned. The KHL in particular is good, exciting hockey, and I wish it and other Euro leagues were televised here in the US.