Why hasn't Edmonton sent Pulju down?
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oilerbear
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Pink socks: posted this little fact at Lowetides site!
I found it a good frame of reference.
//Tyler Seguin Draft+1
74gm-11G-11A-22P 12:13 ATOI, 8.4% SP on 131 shots
Jesse Puljujarvi Draft+1
28gm-1G-7A-8P 11:15 ATOI, 2.4% SP on 41 shots
Jesse Puljujarvi Draft+1 (projected to 74 games)
74gm-3G-18A-21P 11:15 ATOI, 2.4% SP on 108 shots
1 point off, 1 minute less, ****** shooting percentage, it can only climb. Clearly the young man is ruined. I’d like to see him in Bakersfield as well, but I’ll defer to the coach and GM with strong track records on their development of him, and considering a baseline comparison, I’m not overly concerned. //
RageQuit77
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Over dramatics? Only good luck brought an idle 'mascot' for Oilers.
How many other teams would find some use for the child of the nature of hockey?!!
How many other teams would find some use for the child of the nature of hockey?!!
RipsADrive
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I've posted on the Oilers board that Pulju needs to get some playing time and be allowed to make a mistake and learn from it without being sat the rest of the game be that in the AHL or NHL.
That said, there's a ton of overreaction in this thread. Pulju has spent about half a year now practicing and training in a winning environment under the watchful eyes of coaches and trainers who have high expectations for him and want to see him succeed, both now and in the future. He's on the ice every day with some of the best players in the world and is being given a clear picture of the things he needs to work on.
Coming over from Finland, used to the big ice, and having very poor English it seems like a poor idea to instantly shuttle him off to the minors and hope for the best. If anything it shows how much he means to the Oilers that they're willing to burn a year of RFA time in order to keep him around the team and help him acclimatize.
If he's ready for it I'd love to see him get big minutes in the AHL and if not TMac needs to keep nights like last night at a minimum but I find it completely ridiculous to say that the Oilers are ruining him.
That said, there's a ton of overreaction in this thread. Pulju has spent about half a year now practicing and training in a winning environment under the watchful eyes of coaches and trainers who have high expectations for him and want to see him succeed, both now and in the future. He's on the ice every day with some of the best players in the world and is being given a clear picture of the things he needs to work on.
Coming over from Finland, used to the big ice, and having very poor English it seems like a poor idea to instantly shuttle him off to the minors and hope for the best. If anything it shows how much he means to the Oilers that they're willing to burn a year of RFA time in order to keep him around the team and help him acclimatize.
If he's ready for it I'd love to see him get big minutes in the AHL and if not TMac needs to keep nights like last night at a minimum but I find it completely ridiculous to say that the Oilers are ruining him.
agent082
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He didn't. Here is his game logs: https://www.nhl.com/player/leon-draisaitl-8477934?stats=gamelogs-r-nhl&season=20142015
RipsADrive
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You are referring to the player who is currently 20th in league scoring correct?
You've got some high expectations.
oilerbear
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The desire in sports is to win Championships.
3 championships are given out in the playoffs.
2 conf pennats and 1 cup.
14 other teams make money for there owners and fail to deliver for their fans.
14 teams do not make money for there owners and Fail to deliver for their fans.
the oilers got their last championship in 06 playoffs.
if our org is Bad.
think of the Brutal orgs that have not delivered from 06 to 16
Fans should probably look to see how long it has been since their team has won a championship!
Calgary 2004........
....... TOR 1967
2 champions and 28 losers every year!
Calgary didn't win in 2004, edit never mind you meant getting to the SCF, you worded it kind of weird there.
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A) I thought you guys were in Canada. Moved?
B) I'm not certain you want him learning our culture.
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RipsADrive
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I thought you were referring to Leon not turning out great.
Leon averaged 12:41 ice time that year.
Pulju is at 11:15 currently.
The situations are quite similar. Keep in mind that the Oilers are a much better team this year than was Leon was a rookie making ice time a much more valuable commodity.
To be honest I don't know how to find the game by game mins I can only find his combined ice time average 11 mins per game but he played higher minute to start the year and the night that I referred to earlier where they put him with McDavid. But over the last month he has had next to nothing for ice time he has been a healthy scratch on more the 1 occasion. Todd will put him out in the first then bench him for the remainder of the game last 2 games combine I don't think he has 10 mins total ice time it's been a steady decrease as the season goes on. I don't know what point you are trying to make but this is pissing me off more then any of the development over our players over the years even with the way Eakins and Yakupov. If he isn't good enough in the coaches mind to play decent development minutes on our team then let him develope in the AHL. I donno are you an Oilers fan and are you happy with Puljujärvis ice time or having him a healthy scratch?
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Honestly I think the fact that the Oilers have been in a playoff spot since Day 1 has probably affected JP's ice time significantly. The Oilers have been so far out of the playoffs year after year that I am sure there is a lot of pressure on TM to make the playoffs.
The way JP came into the year, he looked like a player but you could tell he was just a bit off. You can tell he reads the play well and has good positioning, but hes had problems adapting to the speed of the game in terms of puck handling and creating space when he has the puck.
TM just doesnt trust him in games. Other thing is that majority of Oiler games have been very close. I think they have only lost by more than 2 goals by twice this season. Every game they play especially recently, it seems like its one goal nailbiter type of game. This causes TM to not play him. The thing thats frustrating though is like a month ago JP actually made quite a few good defensive plays, but TM would bench him in favor of a vet only to watch the vet make a boneyead play and result in a goal against. But fast track to today and JP now has no confidence because he doesnt get any playing time and the coach hasnt trusted him the majority of the year.
But I dont really understand why PC hasnt just sent him down if the coach isnt playing him. I know a lot of Oilers fans think they dont have a plan for JP. I do think they have a plan for JP, I just dont know what it is and whatever their plan is I just dont agree with it. But maybe we are overreacting, who knows.
The way JP came into the year, he looked like a player but you could tell he was just a bit off. You can tell he reads the play well and has good positioning, but hes had problems adapting to the speed of the game in terms of puck handling and creating space when he has the puck.
TM just doesnt trust him in games. Other thing is that majority of Oiler games have been very close. I think they have only lost by more than 2 goals by twice this season. Every game they play especially recently, it seems like its one goal nailbiter type of game. This causes TM to not play him. The thing thats frustrating though is like a month ago JP actually made quite a few good defensive plays, but TM would bench him in favor of a vet only to watch the vet make a boneyead play and result in a goal against. But fast track to today and JP now has no confidence because he doesnt get any playing time and the coach hasnt trusted him the majority of the year.
But I dont really understand why PC hasnt just sent him down if the coach isnt playing him. I know a lot of Oilers fans think they dont have a plan for JP. I do think they have a plan for JP, I just dont know what it is and whatever their plan is I just dont agree with it. But maybe we are overreacting, who knows.
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Puljujarvi has an NHL sized body and isn't a total liability defensively. He's not hurting the team at all but at the same time i feel like he might benefit from more ice time down in the AHL.
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Historically the Oilers did the same with Leon, not this season. I don't understand what the confusion is
If this was the old run Oilers, Pulju would be on the top line getting eaten alive, but instead we have the luxury of not needing a hail mary to compete
agent082
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Thanks for the bolded. Well I for one am concerned I say send him down and recall slepy. Let Puljujärvi log some tough minutes and get some feel of the game some feel of the way things work on the smaller ice. It's not like they can't recall him. I think being able to send him down and recall him in his 18 year old season is a luxury that the Oilers aren't using.
RipsADrive
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I honestly don't know what you want me to look for. I see two rookies who don't yet have the trust of their coach and don't play on the special teams which can heavily influence icetime.
I really don't like the 3 minutes he got yesterday but besides that it seems fairly ordinary. (The other 3 minute game was due to injury)
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Pulju is playing 11:15 a game and Draistral 12:41 played a game in his rookie year.
That's only a difference of 2 or 3 shifts a game.
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RipsADrive
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Tell us what you mean.
If you can't make your own point don't ask someone else to make it for you.
