Russian Fan said:
I wasn't kerrly, I'm just tired of those 1-side view that Bob should do this, Bob should do that while there's a lot of worshipping towards Gary to do a lockout without REALLY FIXING THE GAME.
Take a look in the mirror, you are as one-sided as anyone on this site.
Some can perceive as pro-player but I never was. I still can understand why he didn't sign anything yet.
You can perceive that I'm pro-owner but I'm not, in fact i'm pro-game. And for the game's benefit I can see why they haven't agreed to a PA deal yet.
Because those bunch of clowns make offers without explaining why it would help the game. Explaining is not those PR move they do for the media & misleading fan.
As soon as Bob Goodenow makes one of his offers and then follows it with a detailed analysis of how his deal benefits the game and the league, I will respond to this question. If you would like to explain point #7 to me of their soft cap proposal and tell me how it even comes closer to benefitting the game rather than destroying it, I will give you a thousand cash.
I know Kerrly you can find me something that Daly or Bettman said about revenue sharing but since their last PR masterpiece, even Bob McKenzie talked about the meaningless sharing plan that goes to zip after 6 years.
This I don't dispute and have said many times it was a mistake.
After that ? They already determined that the NHL would lose 800M$ due to the lockout they create & which they were WILLING to do it. So they need to live with the consequences of their acts & start fresh.
Is this a fabricated number, because I have not heard anything in terms of projected revenue losses. I'm not disputing the fact that they will lose loads of revenue, just had never heard an estimated number from anyone of league importance. They are living with the consequences and thats why the offers are getting worse for the PA. Still don't see a plan B from their side, and if they are waiting for Bettman to cave into a loophole filled system with a high cap set amount then they are digging their own grave. The revenues are not there, and owners are better prepared for this lock-out then the last. If they wanted to get creative with a system and experiment with different ideas, then they should have been willing to do that years ago, when Bettman approached the PA to try and stop the damage. Yet, they decided to move forward and milk the system and league to death in favor of fat pockets. They are getting no favours anymore.
What I have against Gary Bettman is this ETERNAL CONFRONTATIONAL way of doing things which lead to inevitably to crush Bob & the PA. I don't mind is Bob got move out of his seat because I'm NOT pro-player but I can say WITHOUT A DOUBT that the owners should stop their bu**sh*t & start MAKING A REAL PLAN ABOUT how 30 teams can work together & let the Nashville's of this world be there for 10-20 years in order to make some hockey traditions in those markets that so many want to contract.
And tell me, in detail preferably, how anyone of the proposed PA systems are better for the small market teams than any of the NHL's proposals.
I'm disgusted with the owners because they won this lockout & it's not enough. Not only that , there is NO PLAN to make sure all 30 teams will be ok after a cap, it's just rhetoric & philosophy & wishful thinking.
Did it ever cross your mind for a second that this wasn't about winning or getting the PA to concede to cap, but rather about actually solving the finance problems the league is faced with. No plan, is a mis-guided opinion, and have only seen the un-linked proposal that eventually loses revenue sharing. If the PA wants revenue sharing so badly, accept the un-linked cap provided that teams share a certain amount of revenues for every year of the agreement. Like the NHL's plan to share at least $88m every season of the agreement that the NHLPA took over their own plan in one of their proposals.
Sometimes I wonder how those 30 BILLIONNAIRES made money in the 1st place when they seem so not READY to build something serious to make hockey A GREAT SPORT AGAIN.
Vague & pointless, to the point where I can't respond.
that my view & those who still thinks i'm pro-players.....they just don't know how to read.
Yeah, you sure lay it out there in every post that you are completely objective in your opinions. You criticize one side and one side only in this mess, is it that hard to understand why people claim you are pro-player? From where I sit, I can't see it any other way, until you start calling out Bob's side as well.