Why do NHL owners allow players to play this tournament?!
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XokkeyGuy
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If Washington or any other NHL-club would tell the russian players that they will never be allowed to go to the WC, they would never come to NHL in first place.
Screw you and your dollars I say
Best thing that could happend to ice hockey is if IIHF would have same world wide power as FIFA has in football.
If Washington or any other NHL-club would tell the russian players that they will never be allowed to go to the WC, they would never come to NHL in first place.
Screw you and your dollars I say
Best thing that could happend to ice hockey is if IIHF would have same world wide power as FIFA has in football.
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SwissKNOSE
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I was just thinking the same thing to when hearing about Ovi. But at the same time the players are also making the decision to go, which therefore they know they are taking a chance of getting hurt.
Cause you also have to think about the relationship between the owners and the player. You don't want to piss off your most talented player if they really want to play for their country. So they are keeping them happy by letting them play but then it becomes on the player themselves to not get hurt. Its a no win-win situation.
Cause you also have to think about the relationship between the owners and the player. You don't want to piss off your most talented player if they really want to play for their country. So they are keeping them happy by letting them play but then it becomes on the player themselves to not get hurt. Its a no win-win situation.
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Hollywood Burrows
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well the islanders owner even had a problem with the olympics because tavares injury , its greed imo
it really sucks when it happens and i question why they even went over but at the same time these guys might only get one chance to represent there country or win with a there flag on there crest, ovi obviously went because he felt terrible about his last two olympics and wanted to make up for that cant knock him for that
it really sucks when it happens and i question why they even went over but at the same time these guys might only get one chance to represent there country or win with a there flag on there crest, ovi obviously went because he felt terrible about his last two olympics and wanted to make up for that cant knock him for that
habsrule4eva3089
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Well one thing's for sure, if Ovechkin is seriously injured, that's the last you'll ever see of him at the World Championships. Capitals have tied over 100 million to him, they surely can't be happy.
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I think the CBA says players should be released for international tournaments if they are healthy and want to go themselves.
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Because, how do you expect the NHL and its owners to take take take without giving the hockey world something back when bargaining? Relatively speaking, NHL pays no transfer fees at all. They get their "million dollar assets" for free and thus you can't expect them to pull all the strings on top if it.
If that ever changes and, say, the Washington Capitals has to pay CSKA Moscow a $20M transfer fee for their next superstar to come play for them, we have a discussion.
If that ever changes and, say, the Washington Capitals has to pay CSKA Moscow a $20M transfer fee for their next superstar to come play for them, we have a discussion.
Jussi
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When the transfer fee is often much more than the salary of the player moving and can easily be used to get another player, it's not "for free".
I get the impression from Ovechkin that he will do whatever he wants to do, and he wants to be there. So he will.
the biggest for whom? You might be surprised, but a lot of people in Europe and quite some hockey fans don't really care about who wins the Stanley Cup. If someone follows NHL, it is surely a big trophy, but if you're not, the gold medal is way more important
habsrule4eva3089
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Olympic Gold sure, but to say it's way more important is false. Equal footing perhaps but never above.
“But if you compare the Stanley Cup to the Olympics, I’ll take the Stanley Cup by far for sure. It’s a tougher tournament to win. You have to go through a hundred games to win it. Here, hot goalie, good power play, that’s all it takes. It’s different.”
I think Henrik Sedin's quote best describes the situation.
players can certainly give their insider perspective, but I am talking more about people in Europe that never really "tasted" the play offs. For many people there, these international tournaments are the most important tourneys.
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habsrule4eva3089
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No it's not.
Wrong word
I mean in the perspective of Olympic Gold and Stanley Cup comparison, it doesn't really get inserted into the conversation lol.
habsrule4eva3089
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For sure, agreed, I mean heck why would anyone care about it. A league is suppose to be for the city you live in so I can see why. It's amazing to see though, I mean, you can see how important it is by the atmosphere of the fans that go to the tournament from different parts over. I wonder why is the atmosphere better at this tournament then even in Sochi, that's what surprises me the most, if only this passion was at the Olympics, would have made it epic.
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This is not about what a particular set of fans values the most. To an athlete in hockey, there can be no bigger prize than the Stanley Cup. Winning for your country may be nice and "spiritual", but in terms of the sport itself, it's rather meaningless, especially a World Championship medal. Even the Olympics are won through a Mickey Mouse format compared to the Stanley Cup Playoffs.
There are plenty of reasons for owners to let their players go.
1) With how competitive the NHL is most organizations especially the small/medium sized ones need to foster strong relationships with their key players in order to retain them. Some of this is letting the players go to events such as the WHC that are important to them.
2) It serves as a free development opportunity for their young players. There are usually a good collection of veteran players that a young player wouldn't normally get a chance to learn from.
3) It also helps to grow the sport on a international level. I myself am quite happy to see some of the strides made by a number of the non traditional hockey nations over the last few years.
There is always a risk for a serious injury, but imo most organizations get a lot of benefit out of this tournament.
1) With how competitive the NHL is most organizations especially the small/medium sized ones need to foster strong relationships with their key players in order to retain them. Some of this is letting the players go to events such as the WHC that are important to them.
2) It serves as a free development opportunity for their young players. There are usually a good collection of veteran players that a young player wouldn't normally get a chance to learn from.
3) It also helps to grow the sport on a international level. I myself am quite happy to see some of the strides made by a number of the non traditional hockey nations over the last few years.
There is always a risk for a serious injury, but imo most organizations get a lot of benefit out of this tournament.
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Yet year after year at Hall of Fame speeches you see Olympic Gold medalists bring up their Olympic wins as their most cherished moment. As an athlete an Olympic Gold is the biggest. As a Hockey player Stanley Cup. Olympic Gold is an international symbol, no one outside of Canada and US even knows the big Silver jug exists lol.
You are talking about fans? Sure, you might be right.
But ask any player in the world you want, what would he rather had, a Stanley Cup, or a gold medal from so called 'world championships'? Each player will say the Stanley Cup.
I think, that if an european fan doesn't care about the NHL - but cares about european hockey and hockey overall - it's in my opinion because he's simply not able to watch the league on his TV and, of course that is probably the biggest reason, the games are played too late at night in his country. I bet that that fan would watch the NHL if the same league was played in Europe.
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It might have to do with Russia bowing out early in the tournament. After all there was no shortage of excitement in Vancouver.
No it's not.
Yeah, it is.
It is clearly a lower tier tournament that many players don't even care to participate in.
It might mean something to you, but at the end of the day it is not even remotely close to being the best many of these countries have to offer.
Chimpradamus
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Who cares which gold or win is the most important? The proper question is: would you rather win something or nothing? Athletes want to win. End of story.
And who cares what the bush league NHL thinks? We already know what they think. They want to maximize profits any way they can and care nothing about the sport in general. They could just as well host a juggling league if it brought the same revenue. It's a 100% business perspective and that is sickening.
And who cares what the bush league NHL thinks? We already know what they think. They want to maximize profits any way they can and care nothing about the sport in general. They could just as well host a juggling league if it brought the same revenue. It's a 100% business perspective and that is sickening.
No it's not.
It is to North American hockey fans. If you are a Canadian or American hockey fan and you see one of your favourite players go down at a tournament that means (close to) zero to you, it really stings.
You don't see the point. The point is there are other countries out there, other leagues, other hockey cultures. A lot of ppl here don't care about the NHL at all. To them NHL is just some overseas league they don't know or care much about. The NHL centric world can't claim to be the only one right and important.
I for my part don't care about who wins the Stanley Cup and I don't like the fact players can't paticipate in the WC because of some american league having playoffs.
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