Why do Canadian fans want the U.S. to lose?

[jcorb58]

I guess i am like that other red neck albertian that wants to seperate from the eastern politics that have been shoved down our throats since before PETs time.
I visited the good ole USA only briefly yrs ago. I drove down to Las Vegas and then to LA and proceeded up the pacific coastline. To the most part i found most Americans an awesome bunch that welcomed me along my journey. North of San Fran my car broke down and a hichhicker got me help in Eureca Ca. He put me up as i arranged finances to get home. If i had a vote i would let Quebec leave if they wished and would draw a western border where Ontario begins. This is more because i feel westerners have no voice in the direction our country is going and feel left out of the eastern thinking the steers our nation. It is not because i dont love this country. I wouldnt want to become a U.S. state as i have never agreed with some of their politics. I dont feel inferior to Americans but we as a nation are quite small in comparision. I agree that maybe some Boo and want the Americans to lose because they have dominated every other sport and hockey is all we relate too. The U.S. team could lose and 99% of their nation would not know or not care. To us Canadians hockey is a religion. I am sure there were more than a few Americans that didnt like it when Toronto won the world series. As a nation i respect the pride you americans have. I dont like our own nations politics but i am proud to be a canadian. We as canadians have many things to be proud of. And with my age, if i was born an american it would of landed me in Vietnam. I am thankfull our nation in known as a peacekeeping country throughout the world. But i am also thankfull to have the U.S.A as our friends and allies. As an earlier poster stated the Americans would be the first to help us in a time of crisis. Getting back to hockey if you guys beat us for the gold it will hurt our pride. Damn it was so much easier when you guys werent that good. We just dont want to lose the only sport outside of curling that we ussually excel at.

 

[Henne]

I'll chime in with another nationally-twisted generalization. I suspect, though I don't claim to know a great deal about Canadians, that any ill-feeling directed at the states at the WJCs is similiar to the Anti-American sentiment across the globe centering around foreign policy (and has appeared in this thread.) I've done some travelling recently and its almost trendy now to hate America, especially among ignorant college students, and socialist Europeans, they all spout the same uninformed crap about the current war (which I was against from the start,) the 'world police state,' how the CIA killed millions of South Americans, how they are the evil puppetmasters who somehow manipulate all the worlds events yet are simultaneously stupid, etc... they wear Che Guevara shirts. (Che Guevara was a mass-murderer btw.)

That is not to say the US has not done some ****ed up things, intentionally and inadvertantly, but to single out the US within the expanse of national depravity is ridiculous, and to boo a bunch of 18 year old hockey players for wearing red, white, and blue is even worse. Though I'm not sure this is the case, just basing that on what I've read here. I have a high opinion of Canadians, and any anti-US feeling I've experienced was hardly mean-spirited.

Also I gotta ask... Canadians don't really pridefully harken back to the war of 1812 with any sort of regularity, do they?

 

[Henne]

I guess i am like that other red neck albertian that wants to seperate from the eastern politics that have been shoved down our throats since before PETs time.
I visited the good ole USA only briefly yrs ago. I drove down to Las Vegas and then to LA and proceeded up the pacific coastline. To the most part i found most Americans an awesome bunch that welcomed me along my journey. North of San Fran my car broke down and a hichhicker got me help in Eureca Ca. He put me up as i arranged finances to get home. If i had a vote i would let Quebec leave if they wished and would draw a western border where Ontario begins. This is more because i feel westerners have no voice in the direction our country is going and feel left out of the eastern thinking the steers our nation. It is not because i dont love this country. I wouldnt want to become a U.S. state as i have never agreed with some of their politics. I dont feel inferior to Americans but we as a nation are quite small in comparision. I agree that maybe some Boo and want the Americans to lose because they have dominated every other sport and hockey is all we relate too. The U.S. team could lose and 99% of their nation would not know or not care. To us Canadians hockey is a religion. I am sure there were more than a few Americans that didnt like it when Toronto won the world series. As a nation i respect the pride you americans have. I dont like our own nations politics but i am proud to be a canadian. We as canadians have many things to be proud of. And with my age, if i was born an american it would of landed me in Vietnam. I am thankfull our nation in known as a peacekeeping country throughout the world. But i am also thankfull to have the U.S.A as our friends and allies. As an earlier poster stated the Americans would be the first to help us in a time of crisis. Getting back to hockey if you guys beat us for the gold it will hurt our pride. Damn it was so much easier when you guys werent that good. We just dont want to lose the only sport outside of curling that we ussually excel at.

Good post.

 

[jcorb58]

I'll chime in with another nationally-twisted generalization. I suspect, though I don't claim to know a great deal about Canadians, that any ill-feeling directed at the states at the WJCs is similiar to the Anti-American sentiment across the globe centering around foreign policy (and has appeared in this thread.) I've done some travelling recently and its almost trendy now to hate America, especially among ignorant college students, and socialist Europeans, they all spout the same uninformed crap about the current war (which I was against from the start,) the 'world police state,' how the CIA killed millions of South Americans, how they are the evil puppetmasters who somehow manipulate all the worlds events yet are simultaneously stupid, etc... they wear Che Guevara shirts. (Che Guevara was a mass-murderer btw.)

That is not to say the US has not done some ****ed up things, intentionally and inadvertantly, but to single out the US within the expanse of national depravity is ridiculous, and to boo a bunch of 18 year old hockey players for wearing red, white, and blue is even worse. Though I'm not sure this is the case, just basing that on what I've read here. I have a high opinion of Canadians, and any anti-US feeling I've experienced was hardly mean-spirited.

Also I gotta ask... Canadians don't really pridefully harken back to the war of 1812 with any sort of regularity, do they?

I dont even think most Canadians think of this. I was pretty good in my history lessons and was never taught " we Canadians " won. Please dont tell Bush i dont want him to get back at us now.

 

[Towmater14]

I very much agree with these last two posters and I am hoping that when fans are booing the Americans it is because of competitiveness not politics. I find to many people(mostly young) are basing there beliefs on what entertainers have to say and its ridiculous. How do people figure P Diddy knows more about whats going on in this world then they do? When I go to a hockey game and a few people boo the American national anthem it really pisses me off. It embarrasses me as a Canadian, Plus how many players on your own team are American? Lots. I could go on and on but I feel this anti American thing going on in Canada and in the States has to stop. That being said.... Go Canada!!!

 

[FLYLine27*]

Isn't this a silly discussion? The USA and Canada are rivals, pretty damn big rivals, so what if they are rooting against us? Its not like they are walking around with signs that read, DIE USA PLAYERS! or something like that.

The best fans are the owns who are at a game sitting near opposing teams fans and show emotion toward or against the teams on the ice..but when its all over you shake the other fans had and say it was good game.

 

[Roccoman]

Team Canada
Howie Mandel
Allanis Morrisette
Ryan Reynolds

Team USA
Gallaghar
Pink
Ben Affleck

 

[Ogopogo*]

I'll chime in with another nationally-twisted generalization. I suspect, though I don't claim to know a great deal about Canadians, that any ill-feeling directed at the states at the WJCs is similiar to the Anti-American sentiment across the globe centering around foreign policy (and has appeared in this thread.) I've done some travelling recently and its almost trendy now to hate America, especially among ignorant college students, and socialist Europeans, they all spout the same uninformed crap about the current war (which I was against from the start,) the 'world police state,' how the CIA killed millions of South Americans, how they are the evil puppetmasters who somehow manipulate all the worlds events yet are simultaneously stupid, etc... they wear Che Guevara shirts. (Che Guevara was a mass-murderer btw.)

That is not to say the US has not done some ****ed up things, intentionally and inadvertantly, but to single out the US within the expanse of national depravity is ridiculous, and to boo a bunch of 18 year old hockey players for wearing red, white, and blue is even worse. Though I'm not sure this is the case, just basing that on what I've read here. I have a high opinion of Canadians, and any anti-US feeling I've experienced was hardly mean-spirited.

Also I gotta ask... Canadians don't really pridefully harken back to the war of 1812 with any sort of regularity, do they?

Good post and most normal Canadians have buried 1812.

 

[Rebecca]

I am a Canadian. I have lived in Canada my whole life.

Thus, I feel as though I am well qualified to comment on this topic, since I have associated with fellow Canadians every day of my life and know a lot about them.

I will give you an honest answer for the question you are asking.

The honest answer is: Most Canadians have a big inferiority complex when it comes to the U.S.A.

Most Canadians are always measuring themselves up against the U.S.A., whether it be in politics, economics, education, religion, movies, music, and sports. It is a part of Canadians culture to either try to 'one-up' U.S.A. in all of these aspects of life, or try to be as different as possible from the U.S.A. in all of these aspects of life so as to 'stand-out'.

A few examples of the 'chest-pounding' Canadians like to do as it relates to Canada vs. U.S.A.....

1) You will still hear Canadians talk about a war that took place almost 200 years ago (War of 1812), and how they beat the U.S.A. in that war.
2) You will hear Canadians constantly degrade George W. Bush, or whatever leader the U.S.A. has at the time, while not paying as near as much attention to the flaws of the Canadian leader.
3) You will often come across Canadians who will try to find any and all ways of proving that Canadian education is better.
4) You will often come across Canadians who will bring up the fact that Canada has free health care, and the U.S.A. does not, even when the topic had nothing to do with U.S.A. health care in the first place.
5) A lot of Canadians like to shove it is anyone's face who will listen the amount of Canadian movie stars there are and the amount of Canadians music stars there are. And these Canadian movie stars and Canadian music stars are ALWAYS the best.
6) It is fashionable for Canadians to think that if you are a Canadian, then move to the U.S.A., that you become a 'traitor' and that the country is better off without you. It is fashionable to think that if you move from Canada to the U.S.A., that you weren't worthy of being a Canadian in the first place, and that you must not have been good enough or sophisticated enough to handle Canadian way of life.
7) A lot of Canadians like to have a double-standard when it comes to a specific issue of athletics, one that not surprisingly serves to try to make Canada look more athletically dominant than they really are. This double-standard refers to the fact that people from other countries who play for Canada are 100% Canadian (see Donovan Bailey, Dany Heatley, etc.). And people from Canada who play for other countries are still 100% Canadian but are merely 'traitors' (see Brett Hull). This is absurd. A country can't take credit for Brett Hull, then continue to take credit for Donovan Bailey.
8) A lot of Canadians cling to anything that somehow makes them better at sports than the U.S.A. Or at least makes them have a bigger claim to sports than the U.S.A. Hockey is Canada's sport, because Canada is the best at it. Basketball is Canada's sport, because Canada invented it. Golf is Canada's sport, because Mike Weir won the Master's a couple of years ago. Soccer is Canada's sport, because a Canadian's great-grand-father had a cousin, whose cousin had a father, who had a best friend, who had a brother, who had a best friend who was a former room-mate of someone who went to school with the inventer of soccer (this is made-up, but this is indeed something that a Canadian might say).

But anyways, enough examples as I am sure you get the point by now.

To answer your original question, most Canadians have an inferiority complex when it comes to the U.S.A. They like to see things happen that either: a) makes Canada look better than the U.S.A. (ie. Canada succeed); or b) makes U.S.A. look worse than Canada (ie. U.S.A. fail).

Saying all of this, however, I still remain a proud Canadian. I am still proud of my coutnry. I just tend to try to ignore the overly-obnoxious majority of people that surround me.

*I am sorry if all of this upset anybody here. Keep in mind that I am only referring to MOST Canadians when I typed all of this, not ALL Canadians.*

Correction. Not MOST Canadians, but apparently just MOST that you associate with. What a pity. Frankly, I don't associate with a single person who spouts off in this manner. That's not to say that I don't have anti-American friends... unfortunately I do. But your analysis doesn't even come close to being applicable to them.

 

[Rebecca]

I


Also I gotta ask... Canadians don't really pridefully harken back to the war of 1812 with any sort of regularity, do they?

Good Lord, no. The only time I've EVER heard that brought up was in grade school, and it was even a joke back then. Like, people know we're making fun of ourselves when we bring that up.

I have absolutely no idea what that other poster is on about.

 

[espo*]

Everyone get it our of their systems yet?

 

[Rebecca]

Everyone get it our of their systems yet?

I was just getting started! I only just noticed that there is another three pages of fun and games.

 

[Lowetide]

Everyone get it our of their systems yet?

What the hell was that supposed to mean?

 

[espo*]

What the hell was that supposed to mean?

lol

 

[Bloggins]

I was just getting started! I only just noticed that there is another three pages of fun and games.

Believe me, you don't need to read all that

 

[Randall Graves*]

I remember when Canadians used to brag about the blue jays winning the world series, winning 'americas game'. Of course the two things that shut them up are.

They won with americans
America has been winning your trophy for oh, about the last 10 years.

 

[Ice]

I am a Canadian. I have lived in Canada my whole life.

Thus, I feel as though I am well qualified to comment on this topic, since I have associated with fellow Canadians every day of my life and know a lot about them.

I will give you an honest answer for the question you are asking.

The honest answer is: Most Canadians have a big inferiority complex when it comes to the U.S.A.

Most Canadians are always measuring themselves up against the U.S.A., whether it be in politics, economics, education, religion, movies, music, and sports. It is a part of Canadians culture to either try to 'one-up' U.S.A. in all of these aspects of life, or try to be as different as possible from the U.S.A. in all of these aspects of life so as to 'stand-out'.

A few examples of the 'chest-pounding' Canadians like to do as it relates to Canada vs. U.S.A.....

1) You will still hear Canadians talk about a war that took place almost 200 years ago (War of 1812), and how they beat the U.S.A. in that war.
2) You will hear Canadians constantly degrade George W. Bush, or whatever leader the U.S.A. has at the time, while not paying as near as much attention to the flaws of the Canadian leader.
3) You will often come across Canadians who will try to find any and all ways of proving that Canadian education is better.

You're well qualified alright but not in the way you think. You first 3 points are idiotic enough that I don't feel the need to read the rest.

1) I have never in my life met a Canadian who brought up the war of 1812 in any way other than in joking manner (besides the soldiers were more British than Canadian).
2)Yes Canadians, along with 80% the world degrade Bush, da. But no this is not common. Clinton and even Reagan were liked by Canadians.
3)"Often find Canadians that find any all ways to prove our Education system is better??" I'll take a pound of whatever you have.

 

[gobolt7]

This thread is supposed to be about "Why Canadian fans want the US to lose" This is not the political board, any more off topic posting will result in this thread being closed.

It seems to me that not all of you caught this, I think we are done here.