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Pretty fun looking back now to when so many experts on here were calling him terrible. Especially the choice few Flames fans who didn’t want him for ANY price.
2. This is probably the main reason for keeping Fleury rather than trading him. Keeping him for another cup run was incredibly important, and I'm sure behind closed doors, the discussion was that they'd keep MAF for the run and then the two would part ways. I think this took a TON of pressure off of Fleury to perform, knowing that he wasn't fighting for a spot and didn't have to worry about the future.
3. It came out later that he waived his NMC behind closed doors (sometime in early february, I believe).
5. I 100% believe that the Penguins do not get past Washington last year without Fleury. The team's backups don't get through Washington, or maybe not even CBJ.
IMO winning the cup >> draft picks
Occam's Razor: Murray (who they would have no choice but to expose).I don’t know a lot about the Pens but if Fleury is off the table who do the Knights take instead?
Which as someone else said, worked for both sides. He won 9 games in the Pens Cup run that season and the Pens didn't have to worry about losing someone else in the expansion draft. The funny part is that the Pens didn't make it past the second round this year but Fleury is still going.On the Jay and Dan Podcast a few months ago MAF's agent was on. Paraphrasing what he said about the situation is that Fleury and Rutherford came to an agreement in December that he would waive his NMC for the expansion draft as long as Rutherford did not attempt to move him for the remainder of the season.
I don’t know a lot about the Pens but if Fleury is off the table who do the Knights take instead?
why didn't Pittsburgh trade Fleury before the draft to get some better players instead of just letting him go for free and get picked out of their pocket ?
i see..... what a bummer to see in him vegas , should have been a pen for life1) N0 movement clause
2) See 1
3) NMC gave him the decision where he could go or to say no
4) He says no it is Murrey exposed and not him and we would be having the discussion over why the pens did not trade him and not MAF
5) Pens did not have a goalie that they could have exposed if they traded one or the other
They didn't win him over. As I pointed out, his agent said that he agreed to waive his NMC for Vegas to select him in December as long as the Pens didn't attempt to trade him beforehandbtw
Who says they did not try? Would MAF have taken a trade to either Buffalo or Edmonton?
With Vegas he controlled his fate and it sounds like leading up to the expansion draft Vegas won him over to waive his NMC
OP meant why they didn't trade Fleury before the expansion draft, like maybe a week before it.
Fleury could've returned good assets.
On the Jay and Dan Podcast a few months ago MAF's agent was on. Paraphrasing what he said about the situation is that Fleury and Rutherford came to an agreement in December that he would waive his NMC for the expansion draft as long as Rutherford did not attempt to move him for the remainder of the season.
OP meant why they didn't trade Fleury before the expansion draft, like maybe a week before it.
Fleury could've returned good assets.
Another possible reason pens didn't want to help some team get over the hump and possibly facing him in postseason as everyone expected Vegas to suck.1. He had some control with his NTC which could have made it more difficult to trade especially as he was having an average season.
2. Murray had only played 13 regular season games the year before in his rookie season so we needed another good goalie still just in case things went south. We got to keep Fleury for another cup run.
3. Fleury likely agreed to waive his NMC for Vegas if he could play out the season as a Penguin.
4. Vegas agreeing to take Fleury who we would have had to move anyway for cap reasons which meant we wouldn’t lose one of our skaters.
5. Hindsight: there is a very good chance we don’t win the cup so it really worked out for everyone.