I lot of this are more for the last 2 round than the first one if i am not mistaken (or was true in a different era and we continued to repeat it over the years).
No, they weren't world leading players. Thornton won the Hart in 2006, that's it. I doubt at any given time if you had a live draft of the full league during his career that Thornton would have been anyone's top pick, maybe top 5, maybe even in his Hart year. Did you just not read the part of the post that you removed in the reply, where I listed a bunch of players that were probably better than him and definitely beat him and the Sharks in the playoffs?
Wasn't asking you, was asking OrrNumber4. The part of my post I was referring to explicitly stated that Thornton and Marleau weren't as good as the top of the lineups of the teams that kept beating them during their primes (ANA, LAK, CHI, etc). So, "it is false information" is somehow just you, what, trying to tweak a stranger? I'm not sure the point of your post.
For post number 48,756, really wish it were contributing more value.
There was nothing wrong with Michalek. He would likley have been close to Parise if he hadn't been cheapshotted by an Edmonton turd (Torres I believe). No one wanted Kopitar.
Even a if they are playing a better team they can still win it. Canadiens have won several Cups when they were not the most talented team.
Even a if they are playing a better team they can still win it. Canadiens have won several Cups when they were not the most talented team.
Many times differnt people tried to introduce Stamkos better playoff perfomer than he is. Just becauce his teammates from Sean Bergenheim in 2011 to Nick Paul in 2022 suprisingly helped TBL in tough moments
at ~3 posts per day, and this post being of similar value to his, you could be the same kind of poster in approximately 43 years. But if you increase your post count to 9 one-sentence posts a day, you could get there by 2035. Best of luck!
This is a quick table about the playoff production of star players drafted from 1991-2001.
| Player | GP | Pts | PPG | 1.00 PPG | Series | 1.20+ | 1.00-1.19 | >1.00 % | <0.60 % |
| Forsberg | 151 | 171 | 1.13 | 9 | 27 | 12 | 7 | 0.70 | 0.15 |
| Lindros | 53 | 57 | 1.08 | 3 | 12 | 4 | 3 | 0.58 | 0.25 |
| Kovalchuk | 32 | 27 | 0.84 | 1 | 6 | 2 | 1 | 0.50 | 0.33 |
| Zetterberg | 137 | 120 | 0.88 | 6 | 24 | 4 | 7 | 0.46 | 0.33 |
| Alfredsson | 124 | 100 | 0.81 | 6 | 24 | 6 | 5 | 0.46 | 0.29 |
| St.Louis | 107 | 90 | 0.84 | 4 | 18 | 4 | 4 | 0.44 | 0.33 |
| Kovalev | 123 | 100 | 0.81 | 3 | 22 | 3 | 6 | 0.41 | 0.41 |
| Kariya | 46 | 39 | 0.85 | 4 | 10 | 3 | 1 | 0.40 | 0.40 |
| H.Sedin | 105 | 78 | 0.74 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 5 | 0.39 | 0.39 |
| Naslund | 52 | 36 | 0.69 | 2 | 8 | 1 | 2 | 0.38 | 0.63 |
| Iginla | 81 | 68 | 0.84 | 3 | 14 | 2 | 3 | 0.36 | 0.21 |
| Spezza | 69 | 65 | 0.94 | 4 | 14 | 4 | 1 | 0.36 | 0.36 |
| Elias | 162 | 125 | 0.77 | 5 | 29 | 3 | 7 | 0.34 | 0.34 |
| Datsyuk | 157 | 113 | 0.72 | 4 | 29 | 3 | 7 | 0.34 | 0.45 |
| B.Richards | 146 | 105 | 0.72 | 3 | 25 | 3 | 5 | 0.32 | 0.44 |
| Lecavalier | 75 | 56 | 0.75 | 2 | 13 | 2 | 2 | 0.31 | 0.38 |
| Thornton | 179 | 133 | 0.74 | 3 | 33 | 4 | 6 | 0.30 | 0.39 |
| Hossa | 205 | 149 | 0.73 | 1 | 37 | 5 | 6 | 0.30 | 0.43 |
| Marleau | 177 | 120 | 0.68 | 2 | 31 | 5 | 4 | 0.29 | 0.39 |
| D.Sedin | 102 | 71 | 0.70 | 3 | 18 | 3 | 2 | 0.28 | 0.44 |
| Arnott | 122 | 73 | 0.60 | 0 | 23 | 0 | 3 | 0.13 | 0.61 |
| Doan | 55 | 28 | 0.51 | 1 | 11 | 1 | 0 | 0.09 | 0.55 |
| Whitney | 108 | 53 | 0.49 | 0 | 19 | 0 | 1 | 0.05 | 0.68 |
This is awesome, thank you. Although Joe was 0.90ppg regular season, and that's below Forsberg, Datsyuk, Lindros, Kariya, St. Louis... I stopped looking after that. He wasn't 3rd on the list for overall PPG. 6th at best. Delta was 0.90 -> 0.74.
This was also a great post. To your point about "in his prime" 30 points in 35 games, that's 0.86ppg. That puts him at 5th in playoff PPG on the list shared by the poster above. He wasn't as dominant as he probably should have been, and in some series he plain underperformed. But Joe's issues were not the whole story with why the Sharks were so disappointing.
Stamkos is criticized a lot here... I think, a bit too much!
22 was Stamkos' best run. He created a lot that season and stepped up a bit after Point went down.
I don't want to spend too much time on this because I think everyone knows what Stamkos was and wasn't doing at this point...but, Mr. Career Threatening Injury Man came back with a career high 106 points the following year.
I got your back here...
In 2015 many "experts" including Cherry and Feraro are blaming Cooper for low Stamkos ice time, but coach gave excelent question.
He scored twice in PP with Kucherov contribution, but he`s better
Florida should eliminate Tampa this year
Heh, unfortunately...
Strange-but-true about Stamkos that 2022 season: Prior to April (i.e., for over 80% of his season), he had scored 73 points in 65 games — i.e., around a 90-point pace, or a typical Stamkos season.
Not seeing it. "Bottom of the barrel" per skill level would be Joe Thornton.
So, about the same stat-line as Crosby in 2016 when he won the Conn Smythe...
I have no angle, other than to say that "Stamkos f***ing sucks" in the playoffs is a big overstatement. "He's a little disappointing" would be more accurate.
