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Only if culture (the arts, fine restaurants, sights, etc.) is optional.

Make sure to check out New York City next time you're vacationing in Hoboken. ;)

(Just joking. Not comparing Hoboken to SJ. Exaggeration to make a point.)

No no no don't apologize. You are on to something.

By the way San Jose (who's hockey team is legit and its fans are exceptionally dedicated so nothing against them from a hockey standpoint) is an armpit of a city. I have been going there since the late 70's to visit family and while it has gotten bigger it certainly hasn't gotten better. That place is to San Francisco as Riverside is to Los Angeles. The two just don't compare. SF wouldn't work as a hockey town imo and SJ does but as far as the comparison of the two places it isn't even close.
 
That's a laughable opinion. SF is perhaps the prettiest city in the world. San Jose is a fine enough city,but it doesn't even come close.

It would be like the Rangers opting for Brooklyn over Manhattan

SF is only pretty from 30 miles out. The city is a complete ****hole/dump.
 
No room in SF. I mean, how much would a brand new arena cost? Just for the land alone?

San Jose is the better location.
 
Oakland is pretty too but it is lets say a little bit crime infested. Take away the crime and the dirt and it is as nice as any other dirty town.
 
Real simple why they're in SJ and not SF. SJ was willing to build the arena. SF wasn't. The money is more in SJ these days as well as more people and easier relations with the city. SF isn't what it used to be.
 
No no no don't apologize. You are on to something.

By the way San Jose (who's hockey team is legit and its fans are exceptionally dedicated so nothing against them from a hockey standpoint) is an armpit of a city. I have been going there since the late 70's to visit family and while it has gotten bigger it certainly hasn't gotten better. That place is to San Francisco as Riverside is to Los Angeles. The two just don't compare. SF wouldn't work as a hockey town imo and SJ does but as far as the comparison of the two places it isn't even close.

Well, truth be told, I'm up in the Bay Area often on business and I don't disagree.

One critic here wrote that SF is "too crowded" and "too expensive". Ever wonder why? :laugh:
 
Only if culture (the arts, fine restaurants, sights, etc.) is optional.

Make sure to check out New York City next time you're vacationing in Hoboken. ;)

(Just joking. Not comparing Hoboken to SJ. Exaggeration to make a point.)

SJ has tons of culture, fine restaurants, breweries, 25 mins from a real beach...

The south bay is a great place and has been for a long time. SF is awesome too (I've lived there twice) but it has its cons as well.
 
San Francisco's relevance is not what it used to be. San Francisco has basically been relegated to a pretty backdrop for any bay area related story.

Unfortunately just because a city sells more postcards does not automatically make it a better sports market.

Fact of the matter is San Jose is a larger city with more disposable income and a better economy.

There is a reason the 49ers moved to the south bay.
 
No no no don't apologize. You are on to something.

By the way San Jose (who's hockey team is legit and its fans are exceptionally dedicated so nothing against them from a hockey standpoint) is an armpit of a city. I have been going there since the late 70's to visit family and while it has gotten bigger it certainly hasn't gotten better. That place is to San Francisco as Riverside is to Los Angeles. The two just don't compare. SF wouldn't work as a hockey town imo and SJ does but as far as the comparison of the two places it isn't even close.

Wrong.

Have you been to downtown Mountain View? Downtown Campbell? Downtown Willow Glen? Los Gatos?

Sure they aren't SJ proper, but nothing really is. Even downtown SJ recently has had a massive facelift, especially near San Pedro square.

Far, far from an armpit. Riverside... nice try :laugh:
 
Basically comes down to SJ and Silicon Valley as a whole with tons of $$$ and greater population, with no competition to other major sports teams. Who knows if the Sharks would have the strong fan base and support they have if they stayed in SF.
 
Very simple. You get the San Francisco crowd and the Oakland crowd without the risk of alienating either one.
 
Wrong.

Have you been to downtown Mountain View? Downtown Campbell? Downtown Willow Glen? Los Gatos?

Sure they aren't SJ proper, but nothing really is. Even downtown SJ recently has had a massive facelift, especially near San Pedro square.

Far, far from an armpit. Riverside... nice try :laugh:
I would compare it more to Orange County. The distance is also about right.
If I had to pick a Riverside, it would be Gilroy
 
SJ has tons of culture, fine restaurants, breweries, 25 mins from a real beach...

The south bay is a great place and has been for a long time. SF is awesome too (I've lived there twice) but it has its cons as well.

Dude, I'm very familiar with the entire Bay Area.

And yes, SF is imperfect. So too is NYC. But they are both considered world cities for a reason.

And yet some people prefer San Jose, Northern NJ, and Sheboygen. ;)

So it goes. All good.

Unfortunately just because a city sells more postcards does not automatically make it a better sports market.

Is that all you think of when it comes to SF? If so, might want to get out more often.
 
Wrong.

Have you been to downtown Mountain View? Downtown Campbell? Downtown Willow Glen? Los Gatos?

Sure they aren't SJ proper, but nothing really is. Even downtown SJ recently has had a massive facelift, especially near San Pedro square.

Far, far from an armpit. Riverside... nice try :laugh:

I actually have and am in the SJ area very often and I stand by what I said. Aside from you having a great hockey team and fanbase there isn't much that I would say compares to San Francisco and I think that it compares closely with Ontario (I meant Ontario not Riverside). Very closely.
 
Really? I thought SF was the nice city and Oakland was the dump.

(I've never been to either, this is just what I've generally heard over the years)

Oakland is California's best kept secret. Given there are areas I will not come close to. SF is great but certainly has some dirty ****hole neighborhoods too.
 
I actually have and am in the SJ area very often and I stand by what I said. Aside from you having a great hockey team and fanbase there isn't much that I would say compares to San Francisco and I think that it compares closely with Ontario (I meant Ontario not Riverside). Very closely.
You should go to Atherton next time you are up there.
 
Oakland is California's best kept secret. Given there are areas I will not come close to. SF is great but certainly has some dirty ****hole neighborhoods too.

Oakland is like Compton. Half safe half scary. Be on the safe side after dark
 
Basically comes down to SJ and Silicon Valley as a whole with tons of $$$ and greater population, with no competition to other major sports teams. Who knows if the Sharks would have the strong fan base and support they have if they stayed in SF.

They were only in SF as a temporary thing until the San Jose Arena was ready.

Very simple. You get the San Francisco crowd and the Oakland crowd without the risk of alienating either one.

I don't support the main proposition of this thread, but there is a problem in the Bay Area where (putting aside any issues with the people supporting hockey in general) people see the Sharks as the South Bay's team, and not the entire Bay Area's NHL team.

It's a big beef of mine, because support for the Sharks in SF and Oakland should be much, much bigger than it is. Again, putting aside any people's issues with hockey itself, there is a whole complex between SF vs. SJ (not as much Oak v. SJ, but still support in Oakland is not as big as it could be, although Sharks Ice @ Oakland helps I'm sure).
 
I don't support the main proposition of this thread, but there is a problem in the Bay Area where (putting aside any issues with the people supporting hockey in general) people see the Sharks as the South Bay's team, and not the entire Bay Area's NHL team.

It's a big beef of mine, because support for the Sharks in SF and Oakland should be much, much bigger than it is. Again, putting aside any people's issues with hockey itself, there is a whole complex between SF vs. SJ (not as much Oak v. SJ, but still support in Oakland is not as big as it could be, although Sharks Ice @ Oakland helps I'm sure).

I didn't realize there was any kind of beef there, I figured people would just hop on the Bay Area bandwagon. I mean here in New York we have no problem rooting for football teams whose stadiums are in New Jersey.

On a different note, one place I know for sure there's more Sharks fans than you'd think: New York. Probably #4 behind the Rangers, Islanders, and Devils. I'm always seeing Sharks stuff here.
 
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