Whose 894 will be better?

[PrimumHockeyist]

It's a pretty crazy difference. What we did see back then was a greater reliance on slapshots. I wonder how Gretzky would have adapted his game with a modern stick. His slapper, while not particularly powerful, was deadly accurate and he used it a fair bit. Wish we could do some sort of time travel stuff to see what a young Gretzky would do in the modern NHL with this kind of equipment and training.

I just found this:

"According to simulations, a composite stick can generate a slapshot speed of 66.4 mph, while a wooden stick can generate a speed of 54.9 mph. This represents a difference of approximately 11.5 mph, or around 21% faster swing speed for composite sticks.
Additionally, the lighter weight of composite sticks can reduce fatigue and strain on the player’s arms and shoulders, allowing for quicker and more efficient movements on the ice."

This is the most telling thing to me. That much less time for a D-man to cover.

 

[buffalowing88]

Ovechkin is the Aaron to Gretzky's Ruth. Gretzky will always loom larger because he was done chasing this record while relatively young. Ovechkin will be 40 when he hits it.

 

[MadLuke]

This is the most telling thing to me. That much less time for a D-man to cover.

how many millisecond would that be and would it be compensated by the d-man stick being faster ?

 

[Killer Orcas]

Why would have outscored Mike Gartner goal scoring by a large amount post 1991, they were scoring at a very similar rate before the injury and he aged really well ?

I don't wanna go researching all this so I did quick search and found this. I'm sure it explains it much better then I ever could. I'll just add I'm old and watched him in his prime and he was never the same after the hit.

 

[MadLuke]

I don't wanna go researching all this so I did quick search and found this. I'm sure it explains it much better then I ever could. I'll just add I'm old and watched him in his prime and he was never the same after the hit.

yes he probably still score 40 goals for a while without it, but that does not go over 1000 necessarily. say he score 41-48-42 in 92-93-94.

You add a nice 46 goals to his career and other 35 for the rest of it, still short. He could have obviously, but not sure it necessarily happen.

 

[Killer Orcas]

yes he probably still score 40 goals for a while without it, but that does not go over 1000 necessarily. say he score 41-48-42 in 92-93-94.

You add a nice 46 goals to his career and other 35 for the rest of it, still short. He could have obviously, but not sure it necessarily happen.

You might be right but he did dramatically fall off after the hit. Maybe I have rose colored glasses for him but regardless he would have more then he finished with we can agree.

 

[PrimumHockeyist]

50 goals in 39 games in the '81-82 season (which had a 4.01 GPG per team avg.) is about like scoring 34 goals in 39 games in 2013 (2.72 GPG avg.) - which, incidentally, Ovechkin exceeded (43 goals in 45 games):

Not sure if I got this straight. Are you suggesting that as far as feats are concerned, Gretzky's 50 in 39 is a lesser achievement than scoring 34 goals in 39 games, which is less than a goal a game?

 

[Midnight Judges]

Not sure if I got this straight. Are you suggesting that as far as feats are concerned, Gretzky's 50 in 39 is a lesser achievement than scoring 34 goals in 39 games, which is less than a goal a game?

In 2013. Yes. That is how enormous the scoring environment difference is from Gretzky's era to Ovechkin's era.