Who's the best goalie in the NHL?

[SeanMoneyHands]

For me, Hellebuyck.

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[frisco]

I was going with Jarry but since he's been waived--Helly.

My Best-Carey

 

[aylib]

Definitely not Vasy

 

[Machinehead]

There's very little evidence against Hellebuyck at this point.

 

[Doom Bot]

There should not be one vote that isn't Hellyebucyk

 

[SirPaste]

Super close poll

 

[HabzSauce]

There should not be one vote that isn't Hellyebucyk

Goalies are so up and down every year. It's still sheshterkin for me.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Goalies are so up and down every year. It's still sheshterkin for me.

Same. What if Hellebuyck crumbles again this playoffs?

 

[Realgud]

There's very little evidence against Hellebuyck at this point.

Playoffs

 

[Machinehead]

Playoffs

Sampling error. Take out his last 10 games and his sv% in the playoffs is .920.

 

[HabzSauce]

Same. What if Hellebuyck crumbles again this playoffs?

We even saw it last year if my memory is correct. Sheshty was dogshit first half but then really turned it on 2nd half and reminded everyone why he was the best....and he's always been a beast in playoffs like you said so another point for Shesty.

 

[Realgud]

Sampling error. Take out his last 10 games and his sv% in the playoffs is .920.

Yeah good point, but we are voting for the best goalie right now (I assume), and I do think the latest playoffs performance is important to consider.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Hellebuyck and at this point it’s not particularly close

 

[JKG33]

There's very little evidence against Hellebuyck at this point.

Playoffs

 

[HabsCode]

There's very little evidence against Hellebuyck at this point.

Playoffs.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Suprised no one has mentioned Hellebuyck's playoff performances yet

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

my jim mora is starting to intensify reading this thread

 

[LevelingSolo]

Hellebuyck feels like a tier ahead of everyone else at this point

 

[Golden_Jet]

Was Jarry put in there for the humour.

 

[Shane Diesel]

Goalies are so up and down every year. It's still sheshterkin for me.

20/21:
Hellebuyck - 1
Shesterkin - 15

21/22:
Hellebuyck - 8
Shesterkin - 1

22/23:
Hellebuyck - 4
Shesterkin - 5

23/24:
Hellebuyck - 1
Shesterkin - 12

24/25 (in progress):
Hellebuyck - 2
Shesterkin - 3

Average finish:
Hellebuyck - 3.2
Shesterkin - 7.2

If consistency is your metric, Hellebuyck has been the better goalie the last five seasons. Shesterkin only has a single season of better play.

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[Nogatco Rd]

Hellebuyck for Vezina, Thompson for Hart

 

[HabzSauce]

20/21:
Hellebuyck - 1
Shesterkin - 15

21/22:
Hellebuyck - 8
Shesterkin - 1

22/23:
Hellebuyck - 4
Shesterkin - 5

23/24:
Hellebuyck - 1
Shesterkin - 12

24/25 (in progress):
Hellebuyck - 2
Shesterkin - 3

Average finish:
Hellebuyck - 3.2
Shesterkin - 7.2

If consistency is your metric, Hellebuyck has been the better goalie the last five seasons. Shesterkin only has a single season of better play.

NHL Goalie Advanced Stats 2024-2025

NHL Goalie Analytics, Goals Saved Above Expected

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My metric is the eyetest as annoying as that is. I don't put too much stock especially into advanced stats as long as they still look good on the ice.

Also a big fan of goalies that take their game up a notch in playoffs. Price was that dude for example. He had some stinky regular seasons but whenever the games mattered, he was a beast. Sheshterkin is the same - guy elevates his game to new heights come playoff time. I have yet to see anything close to that level of dominance from Helle

But looking at your stats, and this looks pretty even to me if I'm understanding correctly. 22/23 & 24/25 are pretty much a wash. 21/22 goes to Shesty, and 23/24 goes to Helle.

 

[Shane Diesel]

My metric is the eyetest as annoying as that is. I don't put too much stock especially into advanced stats as long as they still look good on the ice.

Your subjective analysis is meaningless to me. Without a baseline anyone can claim anything.

Also a big fan of goalies that take their game up a notch in playoffs. Price was that dude for example. He had some stinky regular seasons but whenever the games mattered, he was a beast. Sheshterkin is the same - guy elevates his game to new heights come playoff time. I have yet to see anything close to that level of dominance from Helle

But looking at your stats, and this looks pretty even to me if I'm understanding correctly. 22/23 & 24/25 are pretty much a wash. 21/22 goes to Shesty, and 23/24 goes to Helle.

You're kidding right? Or is math just not your strong suit?

 

[HabzSauce]

Your subjective analysis is meaningless to me. Without a baseline anyone can claim anything.

Ok cool go argue with someone else then. I have no bone in this fight just giving my opinion. My opinion on playoff performance can be backed by numbers tho so not sure why you chose to ignore that part of my argument ?

You're kidding right? Or is math just not your strong suit?

Lol ok forgive me let me try again

2021/2022
Sheshterkin - 1st
Helle - 8th

2022/2023 (wash)
Helle - 4th
Sheshterkin - 5th

2023/2024
Helle - 1st
Sheshterkin - 12th

2024/2025 (wash)
Helle - 2nd
Sheshterkin - 3rd

What am I missing here? Here's playoffs too:

2020/2021
Helle - 3rd
Sheshterkin - DNQ

2021/2022
Sheshterkin - 1st
Helle - DNQ

2022/2023
Sheshterkin - 2nd
Helle - 23rd

2023/2024
Sheshterkin - 2nd
Helle - 27th (dead last)