Who would you rather? Danault vs Domi

[A Loyal Demidog]

Okay, it's pretty simple. There's a logjam at center for Montreal (who would have ever guessed this???)

We all know the background of everything going on (Domi and Julien had disagreements, Domi was slotted in 4C during play-ins, Domi got a new agent; Danault giving ultimatum: give me top-6 offensive C duties or I leave)...

Who would you rather keep and why?

Personally, I choose Max Domi to stay. The reasons being are:

1. I think he's a better overall player than Danault (not defensively, obviously - but Domi showed us exactly what he's capable of, and that was a marvel to witness);
2. He's better suited going forward, as he would help the team a lot more offensively (defensively the team is much better now than it was a few years ago: we finally have a very solid backup goalie, we have Romanov coming up, etc);
3. He isn't giving ultimatums that might, one, hinder one of Suzuki/Kotkaniemi's progression, and two, be considered a red flag that he might want to bail on us should things not go his way (*ahem* Danault);
4. He's still an RFA and younger and his value has taken a solid dip, whereas Danault's value is at its highest;
5. It's Max Domi! He's fun to have around. Sure he takes stupid ass penalties every now and then, but he drives the play forward, is fun to watch, still has lots of untapped potential. Give him good wingers and watch him kick ass again!

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[le_sean]

I’ll keep the guy that actually takes important faceoffs and wins them, shuts down the other team’s top lines, kills penalties, and provides offence over the guy that acts tough in the regular season then hides in the playoffs because he’s mad that he got overshadowed by younger players.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

I’ll keep the guy that actually takes important faceoffs and wins them, shuts down the other team’s top lines, kills penalties, and provides offence over the guy that acts tough in the regular season then hides in the playoffs because he’s mad that he got overshadowed by younger players.

Change linemates for Danault, and his offense takes a massive dip.

Also, Domi wasn't the one who went public insinuating "if you don't give me top 6 C duties, I may quit on this team".

Besides, they had equal amounts of points in the playoffs, except one of them was buried in 4C for the majority of the time, while the other was given every chance he could at 1C with the best wingers.

 

[le_sean]

Change linemates for Danault, and his offense takes a massive dip.

Also, Domi wasn't the one who went public insinuating "if you don't give me top 6 C duties, I may quit on this team".

Danault’s frustration didn’t show on the ice. He was one of the Habs best forwards. Domi clearly sulked and wasn’t into games whatsoever. 9 pointless games out of 10.

What exactly does Domi do when he doesn’t provide offence? Absolutely nothing.

 

[Kwikwi]

Danault’s frustration didn’t show on the ice. He was one of the Habs best forwards. Domi clearly sulked and wasn’t into games whatsoever. 9 pointless games out of 10.

What exactly does Domi do when he doesn’t provide offence? Absolutely nothing.

translation to Danault’s comment after the elimination.
If i play as a 3rd line center my next contract will suffer. He just want his part of the pie which he deserves.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

Danault’s frustration didn’t show on the ice. He was one of the Habs best forwards. Domi clearly sulked and wasn’t into games whatsoever. 9 pointless games out of 10.

What exactly does Domi do when he doesn’t provide offence? Absolutely nothing.

The most toxic thing anyone can do is go public with such comments, as Danault has done. It shows selfishness. It lacks team spirit. Domi didn't have to go public with his valid disappointment. Domi's been shat on by all journalists, fans, etc. This, exactly one season after being the first center in well over a decade to score over 70+ points. Domi's linemates have been pure ass all season long. He hasn't been gifted many chances. Princess Danault, on the other hand, has everything handed over to him on a silver platter - and STILL complains when something doesn't go his way.

Max Domi didn't have to show up at the play-ins. He put his life in danger to try and help this team. The coach failed him, threw him under a bus (and this, no less, during a contract renewal year). But yeah, let's all vote for Golden Boy Danault.

 

[DAChampion]

The most toxic thing anyone can do is go public with such comments, as Danault has done. It shows selfishness. It lacks team spirit. Domi didn't have to go public with his valid disappointment. Domi's been shat on by all journalists, fans, etc. This, exactly one season after being the first center in well over a decade to score over 70+ points. Domi's linemates have been pure ass all season long. He hasn't been gifted many chances. Princess Danault, on the other hand, has everything handed over to him on a silver platter - and STILL complains when something doesn't go his way.

Max Domi didn't have to show up at the play-ins. He put his life in danger to try and help this team. The coach failed him, threw him under a bus (and this, no less, during a contract renewal year). But yeah, let's all vote for Golden Boy Danault.

Domi's play didn't actually help much during the play-ins and playoffs, that's the biggest issue.

The other is that he won't be getting 72 points on a team with Suzuki and Kotkaniemi.

 

[peate]

Dano, providing he takes Frank's advice: "Shut up an play your game."

 

[le_sean]

The most toxic thing anyone can do is go public with such comments, as Danault has done. It shows selfishness. It lacks team spirit. Domi didn't have to go public with his valid disappointment. Domi's been shat on by all journalists, fans, etc. This, exactly one season after being the first center in well over a decade to score over 70+ points. Domi's linemates have been pure ass all season long. He hasn't been gifted many chances. Princess Danault, on the other hand, has everything handed over to him on a silver platter - and STILL complains when something doesn't go his way.

Max Domi didn't have to show up at the play-ins. He put his life in danger to try and help this team. The coach failed him, threw him under a bus (and this, no less, during a contract renewal year). But yeah, let's all vote for Golden Boy Danault.

One of the most clueless posts I’ve ever read

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

Domi's play didn't actually help much during the play-ins and playoffs, that's the biggest issue.

The other is that he won't be getting 72 points on a team with Suzuki and Kotkaniemi.

Well, no shit, lol. He was dumped in 4C.

Kotkaniemi may not be ready for top-6 center duties. And with Princess Danault in the picture, Kotkaniemi may never see top-6 action, because G-d forbid Princess Danault complains to the media and threatens to quit on this team.

 

[Runner77]

Always pick the guy with the oversized skull.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

One of the most clueless posts I’ve ever read

Clueless because it doesn't fit your agenda, and because there's absolutely nothing you can answer to this?

 

[DAChampion]

Well, no shit, lol. He was dumped in 4C.

Kotkaniemi may not be ready for top-6 center duties. And with Princess Danault in the picture, Kotkaniemi may never see top-6 action, because G-d forbid Princess Danault complains to the media and threatens to quit on this team.

Domi could have actually done very well as a 4C, if he was as good as you argue. Being 4C means going up against weaker opposition. He was certainly the most talented 4th line C we've had in a very long time, but ... The Habs would have been better off with a prime Dominic Moore, Glen Metropolit, or Maxim Lapierre.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

Domi could have actually done very well as a 4C, if he was as good as you argue. Being 4C means going up against weaker opposition. He was certainly the most talented 4th line C we've had in a very long time, but ... The Habs would have been better off with a prime Dominic Moore, Glen Metropolit, or Maxim Lapierre.

No, he couldn't. Not with linemates like Weal and the sort. Give Domi a Shaw-like player and he would have been way ahead of Princess Danault during these playoffs (and likely our 1C).

 

[DAChampion]

No, he couldn't. Not with linemates like Weal and the sort. Give Domi a Shaw-like player and he would have been way ahead of Princess Danault during these playoffs (and likely our 1C).

So Domi needs second-line linemates to produce against 4th liners?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Id keep Danault over Domi for sure

but if really had the choice , id trade both

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

So Domi needs second-line linemates to produce against 4th liners?

Put Danault with borderline fourth-line linemates, in 4C, and the guy might not even crack 25 points in a season. Get the logic?

 

[japhi]

Phil and its not even close. Way better overall player. And I like Domi so not slagging him.

 

[Habs178]

So Domi needs second-line linemates to produce against 4th liners?

Well we know Danault is the same. So?

EDIT: Danault also needs top six line mates to produce. I didn’t see the 4th liners part.

 

[Runner77]

I would look at this another way. As much as Danault excels on defence, fact is that defence can be taught and scoring can't.

Danault will never be an offensive producer like Domi can be.

This team lacks first line wingers with size. I would trade the one that nets us that piece we're sorely lacking. If that trading asset is Danault, then Domi can fill at 3C, where he can provide greater offence than Danault. Team still lacks scoring. Trading Danault for a scoring winger and adding Domi as the 3rd line C will add offensive weapons.

However, it will never happen. Julien will fight tooth an nail for Danault to stay.

 

[japhi]

Change linemates for Danault, and his offense takes a massive dip.

Also, Domi wasn't the one who went public insinuating "if you don't give me top 6 C duties, I may quit on this team".

Besides, they had equal amounts of points in the playoffs, except one of them was buried in 4C for the majority of the time, while the other was given every chance he could at 1C with the best wingers.

Not sure if anyone else noticed but Danault’s linemates didn’t exactly tear it up without them. If he is such a drain on that line I’d expect Gally and Tatar to produce more without him.

Reality is, that is a very good line and Phil is a big part of it. Weshouldn’t be trying to break it up we should be adding to the forward group to support KK and Suzuki.

 

[japhi]

Id keep Danault over Domi for sure

but if really had the choice , id trade both

We finally get depth at C and some of you guys want to get rid of it ASAP.

Ya lets get rid of two top 9 C’s and then begin the search for a top 9 C. Thats makes perfect sense.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

Well, the masses have spoken. Habs fans embrace mediocrity!

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

We finally get depth at C and some of you guys want to get rid of it ASAP.

Ya lets get rid of two top 9 C’s and then begin the search for a top 9 C. Thats makes perfect sense.

Im not gonna pay Danault 6m for 6-7 years.
Also Danault don't want to play on a third line he literally just said it.

Im also against that Kotkaniemi needs to be sheltered again next season. It's his third season already in the NHL , he needs good wingers if you wanna see him improve. Danault sucks as a top 6 center.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Well, the masses have spoken. Habs fans embrace mediocrity!

What a weird take ,

Danault wants top 6 money , nobody else in this board and probably Bergevin wants him as a top6.
Danault opted out himself with that dumb comment
Domi does not want to play on wings , its been known for a while , Domi on a thirdline is fcking useless since he can't play D for shit. Why give him armia and Lekhonen when you can trade him for an actual winger or a LHD.

What do you mean we embrace mediocrity. We missed playoffs twice with those 2 clowns as top 6 center