Who would you have drafted? 2023

[Kaladin]

In think MM was the second best hockey player age 16 on earth after Bedard. But he can become like a Wright 2.0. The best players are those who peak at 25 yrs old. Age 16 is tricky.

I'm not worryed, Habs will pick another good offensive talent like thay did with Caufield in the next 2 or 3 years.

Relying on hitting on a Caufield type talent that low in the draft is not a strategy, it's hitting the lottery. Is that Hughes' grand plan? To get lucky? lol.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

At worst, could see him have a 'Alexei Ponikarovsky' type career, big complementary guy who can fill top-line duties but who won't score that much.

It wouldn't be the end of the world... but I hope he'll be way better than that.

I hope. You picked one of the worst big player almost a nobody man !
Way way better than him, lol.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Relying on hitting on a Caufield type talent that low in the draft is not a strategy, it's hitting the lottery. Is that Hughes' grand plan? To get lucky? lol.

Well, next two years habs will pick between 4 to 12. Not 15th.
But Caufield is the proof you can hit jackpot at this rank. Bergeron, Marchand, Point , Kopitar and Pasta too. Chances are lower, I know.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Slafkovsky and Reinbacher are way more impressive as prospect than Kotkaniemi was as an 18YO. Also, potential generational talent dont fall to 5-7ov, come on... i am as high as the next guy on Michkov but lets calm the generational label.

Also, it is not a bad thing to pick a riser. Its actually a very good thing. Its just feel uncomfortable because for us unknowledgeable fans, they are not comforting names that we hear since their D-2.

You want your young player to be on a steep uptrending curve. Dont be afraid of that.

The biggest red flag, along with a shitty attitude, is lack of growth/stagnation in a young. Wright lack of growth between his D-2 and his DY is hugely, hugely concerning for example.

This is eerily similar to some stock market concept, when a stock rise rapidly in value, for example 80-100% in 3-4 weeks and makes a new all time high, the crowd is often afraid, think its too richly valued and are afraid to buy it. Little do they know that a stock that has doubled rapidly really likes to double again!

Don’t remember the last time one of of these late risers wasn’t a disappointment.

 

[L4br3cqu3]

I hope. You picked one of the worst big player almost a nobody man !
Way way better than him, lol.

I picked him because he still managed to carve a career, he had some skills, he wasn't just big, but something never clicked enough, and his drive wasn't his best asset either. Still remember the Ponikarovsky - Sundin - Antropov (Toronto) line giving us trouble at some point in time, because of their size alone.

But yeah, I don't think Slafkovsky's drive will ever be a problem.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

I picked him because he still managed to carve a career, he had some skills, he wasn't just big, but something never clicked enough, and his drive wasn't his best asset either. Still remember the Ponikarovsky - Sundin - Antropov (Toronto) line giving us trouble at some point in time, because of their size alone.

But yeah, I don't think Slafkovsky's drive will ever be a problem.

Sundin linemates. I remember we had Hoglund in the Koivu years. He sucked with us. Hoglund played with Sundin after and had 30 goals season. A big center like Sundin change a lot of datas. Like when Lindros had John Leclair putting 50 g regular.

 

[Kennerback]

Don’t remember the last time one of of these late risers wasn’t a disappointment.

The problem with your position on Slafkofsky is you way overvalue Wright who will never be an elite player. Rheinbacher doesn’t have Wright in back of him.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Since Smith was taken, and if the Habs were not to take Mitchkov, I would have chosen Leoanrd

Reinbacher is a great prospect, but we're already loaded up the ass with dman prospect. I know we are thin on the right side, but if we can't score a f***ing goal, we can't win.

 

[Jaynki]

Don’t remember the last time one of of these late risers wasn’t a disappointment.

Dont have to look that far but okay.

The problem with your position on Slafkofsky is you way overvalue Wright who will never be an elite player. Rheinbacher doesn’t have Wright in back of him.

Imagine criticising Slafkovsky because he had 10 points in 39 NHL games while on the other hand praising Wright who had 13 points in 34 AHL games .

One is the worst 1st overall pick in recent memory, the other is a downright catastrophe.

 

[Kennerback]

Dont have to look that far but okay.


Imagine criticising Slafkovsky because he had 10 points in 39 NHL games while on the other hand praising Wright who had 13 points in 34 AHL games .

One is the worst 1st overall pick in recent memory, the other is a downright catastrophe.

Wright is a total lightweight that was propped up by the Canadian hockey-media Complex.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Since Smith was taken, and if the Habs were not to take Mitchkov, I would have chosen Leoanrd

Reinbacher is a great prospect, but we're already loaded up the ass with dman prospect. I know we are thin on the right side, but if we can't score a f***ing goal, we can't win.

The scoring goals problem can be adressed later. I have doubts like anybody else but I also know that I have limited infos on players not drafted yet. I don't say anything new when I say drafting isn't an exact science. If Hughes, Bobrov and Gorton picked Reinbacher over Michkov and Leonard, it's because they beleived in this young player. I don't think they went for the position because in that regard, it looks almost stupid, knowing the D is already filled. They saw high potential in DR and mostly they beleive he have higher chances to reach his ceiling. I think Leonard will be a good player but his ceiling may not be that high. A player like Moore can surprise a lot of fans 6 years later. Drafting is a bit of luck.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Wright is a total lightweight that was propped up by the Canadian hockey-media Complex.

Do you thik Michkov was backed by an army of fans who followed him since he was 15?
He is also a lightweight player that is overly propped by fans. I may sound very innapropiate but I see similarities between Wright and Michkov.

 

[Kennerback]

Do you thik Michkov was backed by an army of fans who followed him since he was 15?
He is also a lightweight player that is overly propped by fans. I may sound very innapropiate but I see similarities between Wright and Michkov.

I followed as much as I could about both their draft year. I also have the benefit of having seen Wright this season including many games with Coachella. His offensive game won’t translate to the NHL. I pull my punches on him because it’s pointless.

Michkov will be a superstar. 95% of his goals will translate to the NHL because he doesn’t need to deke players and needs no time and space. The comparisons to Caufield are laughable because he can set up players as well as anyone in the NHL.

 

[26Mats]

Do you think the Habs passed on michkov because they didn't like the timeline? I'm convinced they simply didn't like the player

I think it was the player. I think they were concerned about attitude, lack of size, and that he may be all offense no defense.

I like what they're telling us Reinbacher could become. But I would have rolled the dice on Michkov. Seeing Hutson at development camp and some highlights of Caufield's goals last year, I would have liked to have seen Michkov play with them.

 

[Jaynki]

I followed as much as I could about both their draft year. I also have the benefit of having seen Wright this season including many games with Coachella. His offensive game won’t translate to the NHL. I pull my punches on him because it’s pointless.

Michkov will be a superstar. 95% of his goals will translate to the NHL because he doesn’t need to deke players and needs no time and space. The comparisons to Caufield are laughable because he can set up players as well as anyone in the NHL.

Honestly i would never bet against Michkov talent. Its pretty obvious that he is a star in the making talent wise.

We thought Nikolishin trashed him so he could fell to the caps at 8. But there is starting to be a lot of smoke surrounding this young man character. What if those things are true? If there is one thing that could kill his career, with his talent... its not being careless on defense... its being a stubborn asshole, an arrogant pos thats being dislikes by his teammates.

 

[L4br3cqu3]

Sundin linemates. I remember we had Hoglund in the Koivu years. He sucked with us. Hoglund played with Sundin after and had 30 goals season. A big center like Sundin change a lot of datas. Like when Lindros had John Leclair putting 50 g regular.

Agreed.

Damn I hope Dach can become that big center we've needed for a long time now.

 

[Bouboumaster]

The scoring goals problem can be adressed later. I have doubts like anybody else but I also know that I have limited infos on players not drafted yet. I don't say anything new when I say drafting isn't an exact science. If Hughes, Bobrov and Gorton picked Reinbacher over Michkov and Leonard, it's because they beleived in this young player. I don't think they went for the position because in that regard, it looks almost stupid, knowing the D is already filled. They saw high potential in DR and mostly they beleive he have higher chances to reach his ceiling. I think Leonard will be a good player but his ceiling may not be that high. A player like Moore can surprise a lot of fans 6 years later. Drafting is a bit of luck.

Hey, I would gladly eat crow!

But last year we had only two players who scored 26 goals ore more.... We ain't going nowhere until this is addressed

 

[Mrb1p]

Almost a week and I'm back to being bummed after days of convincing myself it wasnt that bad. Sure, Reinbacher is probably going to be a really good piece. It still was an atrocious decision to pass on Michkov.

A franchise as rich and influential as the Montreal Canadiens can't pay some people in Russia to take a look at the kid? Philly clears their arena and its events just to interview him, but somehow, we just throw the towel in advance because... because what? Because the prospect we pick is going to be fine so no need to put an actual effort into looking in the best Russian prospect since Ovechkin who could realistically drop to us? Reinbacher was a loser pick. Not in the sense that he isnt a terrific prospect, but because it shows a mentality of being afraid to take a gamble. I'm not only bummed about missing out on Michkov, but also because the draft weekend showed us that the Habs still have the same old issue as an organization. They're prudent, tentative. They play it safe.

Limp dick organization.

Slafkovsky and Reinbacher are way more impressive as prospect than Kotkaniemi was as an 18YO. Also, potential generational talent dont fall to 5-7ov, come on... i am as high as the next guy on Michkov but lets calm the generational label.

Also, it is not a bad thing to pick a riser. Its actually a very good thing. Its just feel uncomfortable because for us unknowledgeable fans, they are not comforting names that we hear since their D-2.

You want your young player to be on a steep uptrending curve. Dont be afraid of that.

The biggest red flag, along with a shitty attitude, is lack of growth/stagnation in a young. Wright lack of growth between his D-2 and his DY is hugely, hugely concerning for example.

This is eerily similar to some stock market concept, when a stock rise rapidly in value, for example 80-100% in 3-4 weeks and makes a new all time high, the crowd is often afraid, think its too richly valued and are afraid to buy it. Little do they know that a stock that has doubled rapidly really likes to double again!

Kotkaniemi outproduced Slafkovsky in his D-2, D-1, D year, d+1 and I assume d+2 too because Slaf should be in the AHL.

Outright fakenews BS.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Sundin linemates. I remember we had Hoglund in the Koivu years. He sucked with us. Hoglund played with Sundin after and had 30 goals season. A big center like Sundin change a lot of datas. Like when Lindros had John Leclair putting 50 g regular.

Leclair kept scoring whenever Lindros would go down for long periods with his concussions, Obviously Big E was a factor in his production but Leclair in his prime was still a 40 goal dominant power forward in his own right. Savard had this dumb fixation with turning Leclair into the next Beliveau as a center but he was so dominant on the boards and such a pure north/south player that anyone could see that he belonged on the wing.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Leclair kept scoring whenever Lindros would go down for long periods with his concussions, Obviously Big E was a factor in his production but Leclair in his prime was still a 40 goal dominant power forward in his own right. Savard had this dumb fixation with turning Leclair into the next Beliveau as a center but he was so dominant on the boards and such a pure north/south player that anyone could see that he belonged on the wing.

Big E started Leclair. Once he was started, he was like a big train that nothing could stop. At the time I was shocked. Recchi was good but man, losing big John Leclair !! And to add to the insult losing Desjardins who became a top 15 D of the league for the Flyers and a regular D at the all star game..

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Hey, I would gladly eat crow!

But last year we had only two players who scored 26 goals ore more.... We ain't going nowhere until this is addressed

Last year was a bad year. Lot of injuries including CC. We still need a pure goal scorer and they don't grow on trees. The best Habs can do is to have 8 players scoring 20 goals and more. I expect Dach to improve a lot, he have the potential to become 1C. Until we draft that goal scorer or trade to get one or sign ufa, ah well, we'll get frustrated again and rant until it happen.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Big E started Leclair. Once he was started, he was like a big train that nothing could stop. At the time I was shocked. Recchi was good but man, losing big John Leclair !! And to add to the insult losing Desjardins who became a top 15 D of the league for the Flyers and a regular D at the all star game..

I was so disgusted when we made the trade, absolute idiocy on Savard's part.