Who won the the PLD/Laine trade?

[Monk]

With all the context, voted even.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Seems like I'm in the minority but I'm taking the team that just picked up a 22-year old 1C. It's much harder to build a winner when your best forwards are not centers. Columbus now has Texier and Domi as their top two centers which to me looks suboptimal.

 

[Ryan Michaels]

For me this makes Winnipeg better today and Columbus gets the player with the higher ceiling, I'm not sure how they sort out center longterm but Laine is only 22 obviously we don't know how future contract negotiations go but if they make him happy they have ample time. I think this hurts CBJ positionally and may hurt the Jets down the line if Laine becomes the player he's shown the ability to be. That said WPG isn't hurting for skilled wingers even now with Ehlers and Connor so it's probably a risk worth taking, Schief/Connor/Ehlers/PLD is a great balanced top 4 forwards for years to come(obviously Wheeler too but thinking longer term).

Overall it's a pretty good trade, slight win to CBJ for me mostly because I thought they were going to get fleeced for PLD. But despite all the hot takes I think it looks pretty good for both teams.

Voted CBJ.

 

[Xspyrit]

Shouldn't the players in this trade play even a single game before anyone can even think about who won the trade?

There's 2 ways to evaluate a trade

1) at the moment it is made

2) with the benefit of hindsight down the road (you can evaluate, then re-evaluate again and again)

Personally I don't really see a trade as a "Win/Loss" but usually more like teams deal from a position of strenght to fill a position of need. That's what they always say anyway, rather than try to "win trades". Yes there is a gambling aspect for GMs as they hope the part they acquire will gain more value than the part they traded away.

The actual trade is a bit different though, it involves 3 players that wanted out

So for me :

1) Columbus for now.

2) Could see the Jets win this down the road, if it makes their team better and if they struck gold with that 3rd rounder!

 

[aufheben]

Seems like I'm in the minority but I'm taking the team that just picked up a 22-year old 1C. It's much harder to build a winner when your best forwards are not centers. Columbus now has Texier and Domi as their top two centers which to me looks suboptimal.

*Looks at username and avatar*

 

[aufheben]

Should be a ‘Neither’ option.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

*Looks at username and avatar*

Yeah, exactly. I should know from experience

Caps couldn’t get over the hump until they filled their center issues with Kuzy who played at a Conn Smythe level and Eller who was a 2/3C playing at the top of his game centering the third line. Beagle was also terrific.

 

[3074326]

Depends on how you look at it. Columbus wins in value, but Winnipeg is a more balanced team because of it.

The Jackets have successfully replaced Panarin, but now need to replace PLD. It's more of a shifting of needs, but this is about as good as anyone imagined they could have done. Nice for both imo.

If Texier turns out to be a legit center, this swings heavily in favor of the Jackets.

I voted even.

 

[Seachd]

Definitely like it better for Winnipeg. Have no idea how we'll be able to tell who "won" for a long time yet.

 

[BHD]

Winnipeg? They could handle losing a winger. Who's playing centre for Columbus?

 

[Dumais]

Seems like I'm in the minority but I'm taking the team that just picked up a 22-year old 1C. It's much harder to build a winner when your best forwards are not centers. Columbus now has Texier and Domi as their top two centers which to me looks suboptimal.

A lot of people assume he is a #1C; I disagree. He made the step in his playoff appearances and shows flashes of it during the regular seasons. But hasn't really committed to it. Even when he was lined up with Panarin. Hope he just needs a change in scenery. I would call him #1 to #3C right now, but he will definitely be top 6 for sure.

 

[HarryLime]

Both these guys have come off as lollies to me recently. Laine's last game, however he fought and scored and showed a lot of heart. PLD is my pick for Lolly of the year. Whoever stays past their contract wins. I think PLD is a better fit in WPG, than Laine in CBJ, for what it's worth.

 

[Mobiandi]

They both lost

 

[Thenameless]

Laine was trending toward NHL superstar status a couple of years ago. If he comes even remotely close to the potential that he displayed, and he stays in Columbus more or less injury free, they should come out ahead in the trade. I see PLD as a solid-to-very good pick up, but not necessarily a game changing player with a high upside.

 

[Rubi]

Neither team is better off.

 

[DJJones]

I think Winnipeg will see better improvements for their team. Defense is a still a tire fire but their top 6 is set now.

Ehlers, Connor, and Wheeler are all wingers. Ya Laine is great but Scheifele/Dubois is great center depth and the team will be better balanced.

Meanwhile Laine was complaining about center depth on Winnipeg and he's now going to Columbus with questionable center depth.

 

[ole ole]

Jets team improved while the Jackets didn't.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Even.

Columbus got more but Laine won’t stay there.

 

[Flair Hay]

One of the best win win trades since maybeJohansen for Jones?

 

[Breakers]

PLD is scoring at a higher rate 5v5 over the last 2 years than Laine
That is a potent 1-2 punch in winnipeg if they can fix that trash defensive core.
Laine on the PP is almost unfair though. should be interesting to see

18-19
PLD = 1.01
Laine = 0.73
19/20
PLD= 0.91
Laine= 0.87

 

[The Abusement Park]

Player for player CBJ got the better deal. But getting PLD makes WPG a much better team than CBJ getting Laine imo.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Columbus won the trade but all signs point to Winnipeg getting better. I hope both teams win, to be honest.

 

[InfinityIggy]

On paper its Columbus but I have a feeling Laine isn’t gonna work out there.

I think Winnipeg got a really good fit for their roster.

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Everyone involved loses
edit: except Roslovic

 

[Peggy]

Shouldn't the players in this trade play even a single game before anyone can even think about who won the trade?

Laine is 9rh in goals scoring last 5 seasons. They've played more than enough games lol