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Who will end up as a better player: Bedard, Celebrini, Michkov, Demidov or Hutson?

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Demidov being on this list is a lol. I feel for Habs fans and respect getting excited about him but the KHL is one big roll of the dice. You can have Panarin or Kaprisov, or you can have Gusev or Kuzmenko. Nigel Dawes and Josh Leivo ran the KHL yet couldnt do much in the NHL.

Out of respect for the rest of the list who have already proven to be at least above average NHLers, get him out of here.
 
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Grate n Colorful Oz said:
I see a lot more posts putting Hutson and Demidov both last than there are posts putting them both first. Wanna count them? Being biased doesn't counter bias. Doing so just shows an immaturity that is rampant on the main, notwithstanding Habs fans.
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Habs fans post more here than the rest of the league. Its simple odds there. Im high on Hutson now, but Demidov, lol. Cmon.

Celebrini
Bedard
Huston
Michkov
List is over with
 
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landy said:
Demidov being on this list is a lol. I feel for Habs fans and respect getting excited about him but the KHL is one big roll of the dice. You can have Panarin or Kaprisov, or you can have Gusev or Kuzmenko. Nigel Dawes and Josh Leivo ran the KHL yet couldnt do much in the NHL.

Out of respect for the rest of the list who have already proven to be at least above average NHLers, get him out of here.
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Gallagher >>>> Demidov 🔥🔥🔥
 
Celebrini
Hutson
Demidov
Michkov
Bedard

Is the only correct answer. I expect Hutson to be a top 10dman in the league but Celebrini to be a top 5 forward

The other 3 are offensive stats stackers except Demidov seems to apply himself to the 200ft games already where the other 2 are just straight up ignoring it.
 
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Kojo said:
Demidov's biggest fan is Lane Hutson. He's the best player outside of the NHL.
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I don't know if that's true. Despite his age, I think McKenna may take objection. I'd agree with one of the best the best drafted player, but then again Sennecke is no slouch and how do you compare Parekh and Buium? Or Schaeffer for that matter. And while it may be debatable that he has the greatest upside, there me be established 20 or 30-somethings in other leagues who would fare better than he now because they're physically matured, have rounded their games, and have the experience.

I don't think that you can credibly make the statement "He's the best player outside of the NHL". I'd agree with "He's one of the players outside the NHL with the greatest upside / potential". Like I mean that's the point every other non-Habs fan is making (coming from a Habs fan). It's great to be excited, but be semi-objective at the same time.
 
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I don't know if that's true. Despite his age, I think McKenna may take objection. I'd agree with possibly one of the best drafted players, but then again Sennecke is no slouch and how do you compare Parekh and Buium? Or Schaeffer for that matter. And while it may be debatable that he has the greatest upside, there me be established 20 or 30-somethings in other leagues who would fare better than he now because they're physically matured, have rounded their games, and have the experience.

I don't think that you can credibly make the statement "He's the best player outside of the NHL". I'd agree with "He's one of the players outside the NHL with the greatest upside / potential". Like I mean that's the point every other non-Habs fan is making (coming from a Habs fan). It's great to be excited, but be semi-objective at the same time.
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Ford Prefect said:
I don't know if that's true. Despite his age, I think McKenna may take objection. I'd agree with one of the best the best drafted player, but then again Sennecke is no slouch and how do you compare Parekh and Buium? Or Schaeffer for that matter. And while it may be debatable that he has the greatest upside, there me be established 20 or 30-somethings in other leagues who would fare better than he now because they're physically matured, have rounded their games, and have the experience.

I don't think that you can credibly make the statement "He's the best player outside of the NHL". I'd agree with "He's one of the players outside the NHL with the greatest upside / potential". Like I mean that's the point every other non-Habs fan is making (coming from a Habs fan). It's great to be excited, but be semi-objective at the same time.
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It's the age difference, and Sennecke is nowhere close to Demidov.

Demidov would be 2ppg in that league.
 
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landy said:
Demidov being on this list is a lol. I feel for Habs fans and respect getting excited about him but the KHL is one big roll of the dice. You can have Panarin or Kaprisov, or you can have Gusev or Kuzmenko. Nigel Dawes and Josh Leivo ran the KHL yet couldnt do much in the NHL.

Out of respect for the rest of the list who have already proven to be at least above average NHLers, get him out of here.
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Demidov is the best prospect outside the NHL and is doing better in the khl than Michkov did last season. It wouldn't be surprising at all if he has a better rookie season than Michkov, especially when considering the difference in nhl teams.
 
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Kudo Shinichi said:
Demidov is the best prospect outside the NHL and is doing better in the khl than Michkov did last season. It wouldn't be surprising at all if he has a better rookie season than Michkov, especially when considering the difference in nhl teams.
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I wont be surprised either, but lets have him play a game. The list of KHL busts is larger than then the winners.
 
luiginb said:
He's two years older and playing with actual NHL players. When Lane and Mack were on the same team last year it was obvious who the better/more important player was.
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The age difference really isn't an argument because defensemen usually takes 2 more years than forwards before joining the nhl.
 
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Kojo said:
It's the age difference, and Sennecke is nowhere close to Demidov.

Demidov would be 2ppg in that league.
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That may be true, but it also means jack shit. Corey Locke put up 63 goals and 88 assists in 66 games. Sure, I'll wait a minute while you Google who the hell Corey Locke is.

And you seem to be equating scoring with how good you are. Blake Wheeler had about the same numbers as Patrice Bergeron (1172GP 321-622-943, 0.805 PPG vs. 1294GP 427-613-1040, 0.804 PPG), are they equally good? Obviously not. There is more to the game than just numbers. Mike Gartner ended up with 708 career goals compared to Jerome Iginla's paltry 625. I know which of those two I would have rather had.

Point is, comparing the number of points Sennecke and Demidov can put up is only part of the equation. The former is about 6'4" while the latter is 6'. There may be a phsysical edge he brings that Demidov won't.
 
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That may be true, but it also means jack shit. Corey Locke put up 63 goals and 88 assists in 66 games. Sure, I'll wait a minute while you Google who the hell Corey Locke is.

And you seem to be equating scoring with how good you are. Blake Wheeler had about the same numbers as Patrice Bergeron (1172GP 321-622-943, 0.805 PPG vs. 1294GP 427-613-1040, 0.804 PPG), are they equally good? Obviously not. There is more to the game than just numbers. Mike Gartner ended up with 708 career goals compared to Jerome Iginla's paltry 625. I know which of those two I would have rather had.

Point is, comparing the number of points Sennecke and Demidov can put up is only part of the equation. The former is about 6'4" while the latter is 6'. There may be a phsysical edge he brings that Demidov won't.
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Why you bring up Corey Locke? Demidov is 2x better than Sennecke.

Preposterous that you would think I don't know who Corey Locke is. tsk

Demidov is playing against men and he's going to score 30 goals in the NHL next year, I don't think Sennecke can do that.
 
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Kojo said:
Why you bring up Corey Locke? Demidov is 2x better than Sennecke.

Preposterous that you would think I don't know who Corey Locke is. tsk

Demidov is playing against men and he's going to score 30 goals in the NHL next year, I don't think Sennecke can do that.
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I brought up Corey Locke to demonstrate points don't matter in junior leagues (you were saying he would score 2p/gm). FWIW, I think he will come over and be good right away, but until that happens it's speculation, not fact.
 
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Grate n Colorful Oz said:
False. It's an assumption you made based on forward bias. BU was great the year before without Celebrini, and Hutson was their clear MVP.

Also, again, a defenseman being two years older is the norm. There has been a lot more 18 years old centermen then there has been defensemen coming into the league. This is because defense is the hardest position to master other than goaltending.
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Copium. Celebrini won the Hobey Baker while being Hutson’s team mate. You certainly interpret that as part of a grand conspiracy against the Habs?

Hutson is having an amazing season and should win the Calder, but this ignorance toward the impact of teammates on a given player’s performance is getting silly - especially considering Hutson was eclipsed by Celebrini just last year playing on the same team and with the same team mates.
 
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