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TM. TANK MASTER. You'll never unsee that. sorry not sorry.
WHO should the L.A. Kings hire as their next head coach, if Todd McLellan is dismissed before the end of the season?
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Honestly, a Mike Keenan type is what's needed
lumbergh
It was an idea. I didn't say it was a good idea.
mysterman2
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average tenure of coach in the nhl is 2.4 seasons and Todd is now at 4.25. Think if he gets the axe the next coach should clearly have the interim label. I actually wouldnt mind Stoll- young enough to know the modern game and worked hard on both sides of the puck. Dont think you need a long term announcement as much as a stop gap. Tmac time is over and reality is if he couldnt get it done with a stacked SJ team and then showed he couldnt get it done with a talent heavy Oilers teams- he probably should havent been hired much less given an expensive 5 year deal.
Blake contract acumen leaves much to be desired.
Blake contract acumen leaves much to be desired.
I voted new and upcoming, because none of the other options are particularly appealing.
While older and he coached part of a NHL season, someone like Dale Hunter might be worthwhile. He has had many good seasons coaching in the OHL so he can coach kids. He doesn't put up with crap or play favorites even with superstars like Ovechkin.
Alternatively, hire University of Minnesota's head coach. Sign Faber in 2024 when his draft rights expire. Win.
While older and he coached part of a NHL season, someone like Dale Hunter might be worthwhile. He has had many good seasons coaching in the OHL so he can coach kids. He doesn't put up with crap or play favorites even with superstars like Ovechkin.
Alternatively, hire University of Minnesota's head coach. Sign Faber in 2024 when his draft rights expire. Win.
BigKing
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He is busy planning his birthday party.
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Yeah, but when he was hired, he was contracted to coach a putrid rebuilding team. The market for an established coach means term and dollars for a team like that. We already went the cheap route with Willie D (shudders) the prior season.
Axl Rhoadz
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Let me be the bearer of bad news...or maybe the savior of common sense. TM ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE (anytime soon, that is).
We all should have a pretty good idea on how Blake works...and he's not a hairline trigger type of GM and he doesn't think outside of the box. With that said, it's going to take a hell of a lot more underperforming by this team and hell of a lot more time to evaluate who would be hired next for him to cut ties with TM.
Let me tell you what I don't buy into...this whole 'lost the room' concept is bullshit to me. You are going to tell me that a coach who arguably should have been considered for coach of the year last season has LOST THE ROOM in a span of 3 months?? gtfo. Look at last night, through two periods the Kings had like what, a 30-15 shot advantage? So, did TM lose the room after the 2nd period??
Why don't we take a closer look at what's different from last year to this year (give you a hint, it's not the head coach)...
1) have the systems changed to open up more scoring...yet is hurting us on the defensive side?
2) did Sturm have more of an impact than we know (minus the horrible PP)?
3) does losing Brown have more of an impact than we know?
At this point, I put more blame on Blake than anyone. Everyone knew the defense needed to be improved...hasn't happened and we lost Maatta.
The goaltending is a mess....needs to be addressed.
Right now, this is about the defense and the roster that makes that up -- it's not good and Blake needs to make some moves to improve it. The END.
We all should have a pretty good idea on how Blake works...and he's not a hairline trigger type of GM and he doesn't think outside of the box. With that said, it's going to take a hell of a lot more underperforming by this team and hell of a lot more time to evaluate who would be hired next for him to cut ties with TM.
Let me tell you what I don't buy into...this whole 'lost the room' concept is bullshit to me. You are going to tell me that a coach who arguably should have been considered for coach of the year last season has LOST THE ROOM in a span of 3 months?? gtfo. Look at last night, through two periods the Kings had like what, a 30-15 shot advantage? So, did TM lose the room after the 2nd period??
Why don't we take a closer look at what's different from last year to this year (give you a hint, it's not the head coach)...
1) have the systems changed to open up more scoring...yet is hurting us on the defensive side?
2) did Sturm have more of an impact than we know (minus the horrible PP)?
3) does losing Brown have more of an impact than we know?
At this point, I put more blame on Blake than anyone. Everyone knew the defense needed to be improved...hasn't happened and we lost Maatta.
The goaltending is a mess....needs to be addressed.
Right now, this is about the defense and the roster that makes that up -- it's not good and Blake needs to make some moves to improve it. The END.
I voted for someone new and upcoming - Jesse Cohen. He's got a whole forum of ideas to choose from, we could have direct control over personnel decisions. It's as close to a sure-thing cup as you can get.
I voted since Spintail Murray that we should go with an unknown young coach who has a vision for the new and speedy NHL. Someone who has a vision for how to construct an offensive move without board grinding.
Dan Lambert would be my pick.
All his teams have in common that they play almost without puck possession as we know it.
They use a skilled guy with puck possession to pull other people out of position and then insteadly use that space with a great pass.
While it's more of an high tempo offensive game, I also like how his teams play defense. They don't play super forecheck, they slow the offense down and are ready to pounce any second for a counter attack.
This is exactly the play style our youngsters were drafted for.
Why a coach wasn't hired that reflect this kind of hockey is weird to me
Dan Lambert would be my pick.
All his teams have in common that they play almost without puck possession as we know it.
They use a skilled guy with puck possession to pull other people out of position and then insteadly use that space with a great pass.
While it's more of an high tempo offensive game, I also like how his teams play defense. They don't play super forecheck, they slow the offense down and are ready to pounce any second for a counter attack.
This is exactly the play style our youngsters were drafted for.
Why a coach wasn't hired that reflect this kind of hockey is weird to me
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Ziggy Stardust
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This time i would fully disagree
1) The system didn't change at all. Vilardi and Kempe alone carried the the team in the early season.
Now when they don't do it anymore, we are back to clueless offense without any structure or even an idea how to create offense. Also the Danault line played way above their abilities last season and are back to what they are actuall are. A very expensive 3rd line
2) Sturm was rightfully removed from his post because he was the offense coach.
3) What Brown has to do with all that is far beyond me. He had like 3 impact on the games his last 2 seasons.
What i really see is that we didn't commit to a full rebuild because someone had the glorious idea that our core is somehow capable of something which is obviously not the case since 5 years.
Also we drafted player for size and speed but hired a coach who has not even the slightest clue, how to use size and speed. The Kings run around on the ice as if there is no coach at all in charge. There is no position holding, there is no creativity at all or any idea in general how to structure the game in a way, that allows us to force our game on other teams
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
I hate that Todd sucks so bad for this team because I like him as a person, he's been around the game forever, and is thus insightful and very well spoken
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Fripp
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The insane amount of retreads in HC positions in the NHL has always irritated me. It's the same handful of people over and over. Surely there's a deserving candidate in the AHL, NCAA, or major junior.
He gives some of the most honest press conferences I've ever seen too. Doesn't mince words or make excuses.
That also means that if he says he's confused, he really means it. No coach wants to be fired, but he seems like the type that would tell a GM straight up if he thinks the players are tuning him out.
All The Kings Men
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BigKing
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John Stevens looked pretty good in 2021-22, right? All the team needed to do was add a scorer in the offseason to fix the power play.
My bad. Got the years and coaches mixed up. What I didn't mix up was the offseason move and the fact that both teams sucked the following season when they were apparently just a scorer away...
All The Kings Men
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It's almost as if... HAH! Almost caught me slipping! I actually wrote out three whole sentences I definitely shouldn't before I caught myself.
It is the same in all major sports. Heck, Dusty Baker is on his fifth team as a manager.
