Speculation: Who should the Bruins hire as their next Head Coach?

[jmon1313]

I am no Jack Adams fan.

Yes, today's coaches have to communicate with their players in a different way.

That doesn't mean holding their hand.

I think everyone needs to grow up about this crap.

Wait, I hear the PC police sirens wailing toward my door.

Players don't want to be yelled at like they are trash.

In fact, the entirety of society is better when people don't act like that.

Parenting, coaching, everything.

You can hold players accountable without being an a**hole.

 

[GordonHowe]

What do you mean?

I mean there is a difference between what happened in Chicago, or the Mitch Miller fiasco in Boston, and many of today's prima ballerina's whining about this or expecting that.

Mike Babcock in Columbus.

Babcock is a jerk and a creep. This is well documented.

Did he deserve to be fired for what he did?

Because some of his young players were, again in the PC parlance of the day, "uncomfortable" with his actions.

Given Babcock's history, I would have fired him. Yet a case can be made that the incident was much ado about nothing, save the tender feelings of his young charges.

By some accounts, the Boston Bruins locker room, bereft of veteran leadership - a situation that can certainly be addressed - has fallen into something of a country club atmosphere.

That is not the house that Zdeno Chara built.

That is not the house I want my Boston Bruins to be living in.

With the addition of some veteran leadership and a firm, frank and fair voice behind the bench, the Bruins will be fine.

I disliked Jim Montgomery's approach to coaching on several levels.

But hiring Tortorella would be a short-sighted, short-term "solution."

I feel differently about Peter Laviolette. He's a damn good coach.

FWIW I am still up for Todd Nelson or Misha Donskov.

 

[BruinDust]

I am no Jack Adams fan.

Yes, today's coaches have to communicate with their players in a different way.

That doesn't mean holding their hand.

I think everyone needs to grow up about this crap.

Wait, I hear the PC police sirens wailing toward my door.

You can still be tough. You can still be firm. You can still hold players accountable. These are still supposed to be adult males performing in a highly profitable business.

But you'd better be prepared to be able to explain to the player why they were benched or scratched or saw their ice time cut back. Menacing glares and the silent treatment doesn't work. And be prepared to explain it differently to different players. Long story short, I think it takes a lot more work and more individualistic approach.

 

[BruinDust]

But hiring Tortorella would be a short-sighted, short-term "solution."

I feel differently about Peter Laviolette. He's a damn good coach.

Is? or was?

I think Torts and Laviolette have been living off their reputations from winning cups 2 decades ago for a very long time.

 

[chizzler]

David Carle would be my top choice. If this retool is going to have any success you need a guy that can onboard the young players effectively. Get the most out of them quickly and help them find success on this stage right away.

Mike Sullivan would be my guy if they're looking for somebody with experience and the Pens fire him. Simply think he's been in Pittsburgh way way too long and is in dire need of a change of scenery.

Don't know anything about Ryan Mougenel, the Providence HC. He any good?

I don’t get the love for Sullivan. Pittsburgh sucks right now as bad as Boston. A coach that needs a change of scenery is the choice. I’m good with that. Leave him there. E had a power house while he was there. Without the superstars, he’s an average guy. You need a younger coach with the thought of a younger team going forward.

 

[DKH]

David Carle would be my top choice. If this retool is going to have any success you need a guy that can onboard the young players effectively. Get the most out of them quickly and help them find success on this stage right away.

Mike Sullivan would be my guy if they're looking for somebody with experience and the Pens fire him. Simply think he's been in Pittsburgh way way too long and is in dire need of a change of scenery.

Don't know anything about Ryan Mougenel, the Providence HC. He any good?

He has stepped away on personal issue I thought. Is he back ?

I just want someone who has had nothing to do with the Bruins and no alliance with any of the players and is a hard ass.

Tough coach with no biases what we need. Most people perform well when either physically or emotionally threatened. Obviously you can’t hit the players but you can play mind games with them to get them to play better

The pyramids would never have been built if Joe Sacco was in charge

Any news on who the next GM is ?

 

[jmon1313]

I mean there is a difference between what happened in Chicago, or the Mitch Miller fiasco in Boston, and many of today's prima ballerina's whining about this or expecting that.

Mike Babcock in Columbus.

Babcock is a jerk and a creep. This is well documented.

Did he deserve to be fired for what he did?

Because some of his young players were, again in the PC parlance of the day, "uncomfortable" with his actions.

Given Babcock's history, I would have fired him. Yet a case can be made that the incident was much ado about nothing, save the tender feelings of his young charges.

By some accounts, the Boston Bruins locker room, bereft of veteran leadership - a situation that can certainly be addressed - has fallen into something of a country club atmosphere.

That is not the house that Zdeno Chara built.

That is not the house I want my Boston Bruins to be living in.

With the addition of some veteran leadership and a firm, frank and fair voice behind the bench, the Bruins will be fine.

I disliked Jim Montgomery's approach to coaching on several levels.

But hiring Tortorella would be a short-sighted, short-term "solution."

I feel differently about Peter Laviolette. He's a damn good coach.

FWIW I am still up for Todd Nelson or Misha Donskov.

Babcock is a legitimate psychopath.

He absolutely deserves to be fired in Columbus. Asking a player who feels like he can't say no to see his phone and then going through his pictures is absolute insanity from figure with power over someone.

There's no case to be made that the incident was nothing, it was wrong and absolutely worthy of termination with or without his history.

Don't be mistaken by the initial reports of the incident, he simply asked the vets on the team to share a picture or 2 to get to know them, that is NOT what happened with the younger guys.

Some reflection should be done if you consider this behavior to be okay. Just because it may have been acceptable in the past by coaches doesn't mean it should be now. Call me soft or woke, or whatever term I'm sure you use but we as a society should be better than hiring people like that.

Also read up on what he did to Johan Frazen. Ex-Red Wing Johan Franzen calls Mike Babcock 'the worst (person) I have ever met'

For the record I think Monty was a horrible coach and wanted him gone after his first playoffs, but how he handled his own players was not the problem, he just was bad at managing a game and I don't think he was a good x and os coach.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Players don't want to be yelled at like they are trash.

In fact, the entirety of society is better when people don't act like that.

Parenting, coaching, everything.

You can hold players accountable without being an a**hole.

I guess you will never be a drill sergeant lol.

Bench a player scratch player send down a player yell at a player will still be the same result, a player crying about how mean the coach is.

There is no handbook on how to treat players, coaches have little power these days. They are more like baby sitters.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Babcock is a legitimate psychopath.

He absolutely deserves to be fired in Columbus. Asking a player who feels like he can't say no to see his phone and then going through his pictures is absolute insanity from figure with power over someone.

There's no case to be made that the incident was nothing, it was wrong and absolutely worthy of termination with or without his history.

Don't be mistaken by the initial reports of the incident, he simply asked the vets on the team to share a picture or 2 to get to know them, that is NOT what happened with the younger guys.

Some reflection should be done if you consider this behavior to be okay. Just because it may have been acceptable in the past by coaches doesn't mean it should be now. Call me soft or woke, or whatever term I'm sure you use but we as a society should be better than hiring people like that.

Also read up on what he did to Johan Frazen. Ex-Red Wing Johan Franzen calls Mike Babcock 'the worst (person) I have ever met'

For the record I think Monty was a horrible coach and wanted him gone after his first playoffs, but how he handled his own players was not the problem, he just was bad at managing a game and I don't think he was a good x and os coach.

All of this. Every word.

 

[ranold26]

Quenneville

 

[BruinDust]

Quenneville

Yes, let's hire a 66 year old man who hasn't won a playoff series in a decade.

Belongs in the coaching glue factory right next to Torterella and Laviolette.

 

[jmon1313]

I guess you will never be a drill sergeant lol.

Bench a player scratch player send down a player yell at a player will still be the same result, a player crying about how mean the coach is.

There is no handbook on how to treat players, coaches have little power these days. They are more like baby sitters.

In case you didn't notice, Hockey isn't life and death.

Drill sergeant is an absolutely idiotic comparison because of that.

There's much more effective ways to communicate and I'm sorry that you don't understand that.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

In case you didn't notice, Hockey isn't life and death.

Drill sergeant is an absolutely idiotic comparison because of that.

There's much more effective ways to communicate and I'm sorry that you don't understand that.

"In fact, the entirety of society is better when people don't act like that"

Next time don't cry about it and be more specific. Thanks for lecture, try to practice what you preach and save us from your opinion on how people should behave.

You post your opinion on a hockey board, so you are the one that must not understand. Keep your politics to yourself and stick to the game.

 

[BruinDust]

In case you didn't notice, Hockey isn't life and death.

Drill sergeant is an absolutely idiotic comparison because of that.

There's much more effective ways to communicate and I'm sorry that you don't understand that.

Somehow not being a raving lunatic disciplinarian of a coach equates to babysitting.

Managing people isn't rocket science but it takes a lot more work today than it did years ago when most managers just used the blanket approach. That's all coaching is really, managing people to get the most out of them.

 

[DKH]

I mean there is a difference between what happened in Chicago, or the Mitch Miller fiasco in Boston, and many of today's prima ballerina's whining about this or expecting that.

Mike Babcock in Columbus.

Babcock is a jerk and a creep. This is well documented.

Did he deserve to be fired for what he did?

Because some of his young players were, again in the PC parlance of the day, "uncomfortable" with his actions.

Given Babcock's history, I would have fired him. Yet a case can be made that the incident was much ado about nothing, save the tender feelings of his young charges.

By some accounts, the Boston Bruins locker room, bereft of veteran leadership - a situation that can certainly be addressed - has fallen into something of a country club atmosphere.

That is not the house that Zdeno Chara built.

That is not the house I want my Boston Bruins to be living in.

With the addition of some veteran leadership and a firm, frank and fair voice behind the bench, the Bruins will be fine.

I disliked Jim Montgomery's approach to coaching on several levels.

But hiring Tortorella would be a short-sighted, short-term "solution."

I feel differently about Peter Laviolette. He's a damn good coach.

FWIW I am still up for Todd Nelson or Misha Donskov.

Is Misha male or female? Not familiar with him or her

 

[jmon1313]

"In fact, the entirety of society is better when people don't act like that"

Next time don't cry about it and be more specific. Thanks for lecture, try to practice what you preach and save us from your opinion on how people should behave.

You post your opinion on a hockey board, so you are the one that must not understand. Keep you politics to yourself and stick to the game.

How in the world is it Politics to say society is better when bosses/managers don't treat people bad and or scream at people.

How is that even a controversial take.

 

[mjhfb]

Coaches can only control so much. Sweeney will give him the players, and coaches can't pass or shoot the puck. They can control the bench.
Young or old, experienced or new, the key is to find someone who can accurately determine what each player offers that separates them from the others. Then where they fit in the puzzle to be in a position to succeed. Then communicate what's expected of them in that role. Then then hold them accountable for what's been discussed.
Sounds simple, but as we all know no matter who they get, it's at best a temp job fans will turn on.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

How in the world is it Politics to say society is better when bosses/managers don't treat people bad and or scream at people.

How is that even a controversial take.

Stop generalizing I didn't say that. But it's not always the way to go either, Im willing to bet every coach in the NHL has yelled at his players and even maybe called them name or two at one point or another.

 

[gerrycheeversmask]

Is Misha male or female? Not familiar with him or her

Donskov is currenly my dark horse candidate. My #1 choice is David Carle followed by Rick Tocchet (if he becomes available).

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[ranold26]

Gardiner MacDougall

 

[GordonHowe]

Is? or was?

I think Torts and Laviolette have been living off their reputations from winning cups 2 decades ago for a very long time.

I might say that about Tortorella Rolla but I'm not certain I would say that about Peter laviolette.

I think he's pretty much been a winner everywhere he's gone, and can still coach.

That doesn't mean I want him for the Bruins. I would probably take Mike Sullivan over him.

But frankly, I want someone new, not the same old guys.

No offense to them, but no Jay Leach or Ryan Mougenel.

 

[jmon1313]

Stop generalizing I didn't say that. But it's not always the way to go either, Im willing to bet every coach in the NHL has yelled at his players and even maybe called them name or two at one point or another.

There's a major difference between yelling once in awhile (especially during a game) and what you are advocating for.

Belittling them should never happen.

Also don't get me wrong, I want a coach that is passionate, but direct that yelling towards the refs and the other team

 

[DKH]

I’m for whoever flipped the switch on Pastrnak & Geekie

 

[DKH]

Murphy posted coaching staff out
Boo if true

Signs
Lessons
Silver linings

I’ll take Silver Linings for $500

Unless it’s Tocchet who is an all time top 10 non Bruins favorite (and my HFL SIM coach) I will have no allegiance to who comes in and can bash away and join the club if you guys will have me.

 

[ODAAT]

Is? or was?

I think Torts and Laviolette have been living off their reputations from winning cups 2 decades ago for a very long time.

precisely, both are mouth breathers whose time always comes to end the same way with every team they are with