ODAAT
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at least he`d bring some accountability to both kids and vets equally
Speculation: Who should the Bruins hire as their next Head Coach?
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mjhfb
Easier from up here
I'd be fine with this! Loved Tocchet as a player (him and Neely had a couple of epic scraps).
The Flyers just fired their head coach. If Tocchet was available what are the odds he isn’t their first choice, and why would he choose Boston over Philly?
Bruin4
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Will he/ Vancouver was atotal head case all year, even Tochett has said its been a looong season. Always liked him but dam Vancouver been a mess.
On top of that if the flyers go away from Shaw and the canucks don't pick up Tocchet's option, my guess he goes there.
Sweeney just waiting for Carle to add on more accolades before he hires him
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KnightofBoston
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so what is it about Cassidy that players particularly don't like? What was it that made the veterans on that 2023 team push him out?
My guess is he's not just tough, he's an asshole while he does it, and has an air of not taking accountability on it when things do go wrong..which is never a good look for any kind of boss....but i would also reckon if Im correct in my assessment, getting fired was a huge push for him in this regard. He already put a lot of blame on himself, perhaps only internally, for 2019 and maybe getting fired a few years later was what he needed to fix how he communicates and it ended up working out for him
I could be totally off base here though I'd love to hear from plugged in folks
The more I learned about Montgomery the more I feel he really doesn't deserve any respect. He f***ed up 2023 and then just quit on the team this year because he wanted to be in St Louis
this is also on Sweeney. He needs to do a better job determining character and guys that really want to be here.
Pasta was a slam dunk.
My guess is he's not just tough, he's an asshole while he does it, and has an air of not taking accountability on it when things do go wrong..which is never a good look for any kind of boss....but i would also reckon if Im correct in my assessment, getting fired was a huge push for him in this regard. He already put a lot of blame on himself, perhaps only internally, for 2019 and maybe getting fired a few years later was what he needed to fix how he communicates and it ended up working out for him
I could be totally off base here though I'd love to hear from plugged in folks
The more I learned about Montgomery the more I feel he really doesn't deserve any respect. He f***ed up 2023 and then just quit on the team this year because he wanted to be in St Louis
this is also on Sweeney. He needs to do a better job determining character and guys that really want to be here.
Pasta was a slam dunk.
Thank you for the clarification.
Can someone direct me to the page number of that post? I would like to read it if you don't mind,
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Thank you for the clarification.
Can someone direct me to the page number of that post? I would like to read it if you don't mind,
Speculation: - Who should the Bruins hire as their next Head Coach?
Hmm.
Your source is unimpeachable?
The contention is that Butchie Boy blamed the players for losing the 2019 Stanley Cup finals?
He does not strike me as the type who would shift blame or fail to take accountability for his mistakes. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Recall Patrice Bergeron's comment upon learning Cassidy had been scooped up by Vegas:
"They are going to win the Cup."
Also, since we are casting asparagus, recall too that Sweeney assured Bruce he would be back the next year, business as usual.
After season ending player interviews, my surmise, given veiled references by Steve Conroy (or perhaps Mark Divver, I forget) that having got wind of negative reviews, Neely insisted Cassidy be fired.
Butch was surprised and, naturally, upset.
Which led to Sunny Jim, which led to...
*Was all of this more or less the case?*
*I'm all ears.
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Hmm.
Your source is unimpeachable?
The contention is that Butchie Boy blamed the players for losing the 2019 Stanley Cup finals?
He does not strike me as the type who would shift blame or fail to take accountability for his mistakes. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Recall Patrice Bergeron's comment upon learning Cassidy had been scooped up by Vegas:
"They are going to win the Cup."
Also, since we are casting asparagus, recall too that Sweeney assured Bruce he would be back the next year, business as usual.
After season ending player interviews, my surmise, given veiled references by Steve Conroy (or perhaps Mark Divver, I forget) that having got wind of negative reviews, Neely insisted Cassidy be fired.
Butch was surprised and, naturally, upset.
Which led to Sunny Jim, which led to...
*Was all of this more or less the case?*
*I'm all ears.
I've said all I'm going to say.
Patdud
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Cassidy had just as much to do with the Game 7 loss thanks to his personnel choices and inability to coach himself out of the corner Berube stuck him in.
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He was certainly outcoached. Badly. Berube also beat him at the PR game, getting the refs to react to his whining press conferences.
McGarnagle
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Underrated key to that series. From game 2 onward Berube was working the refs and the Blues got favorable officiating the rest of the way while Bruce said nothing, even after we got absolutely screwed out of game 5 on the Acciari hook that led to the winning goal.
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If I was Sweeney the ink would already be dried on Torts contract. He is exactly the kind of guy we need to light a fire under our floaters and slackers. (The ones that are still here, of course.) I think (my opinion) that some players are a little too comfortable and that it’s possibly been a bit of a country club atmosphere for the last three years. Bring in Torts, Donny!
As with Sullivan, they could certainly do worse.
Tortorella will not stand for the country club atmosphere that has apparently found its level in the room.
If they did this, which they won't, two years would be about right.
Then again, Tortorella shot himself out of Philadelphia opining that he had no time for a rebuilding process.
My top two coaching alternatives are the AHL's Todd Nelson and the intriguing Misha Donskov (whom, as noted, Don Sweeney knows from the 4 Nations tournament).
BTW, though of Russian descent, Donskov was born in Montreal, of all places.
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I am not against Torts
I am not against Torts, but my preference would be Tocchet, but what do I know.
The scuttlebutt I'm seeing on the interwebz has Tocchet to the Flyers.
In my opinion, not that you asked for it, would be to stay away from Tortorella. That's a band-aid and not a solution. All hiring him would do would be to kick the can down the road and land us all back here again in a year or two.
I'm actually surprised that the calls to replace Don Sweeney aren't louder here. I seriously doubt that a new GM would hire John Tortorella or Mike Sullivan. But Bruins front office/ownership gonna do Bruins things. I desperately want to believe that a year from now the Bruins are trending on an upward trajectory and we're all optimistic for the future. I've been a Bruins fan for almost 40 years, and I always hold out hope that this franchise will pleasantly surprise me.
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In the past I would probably not in for Torts, but is just such a disaster, I almost just say go with it, what is the worse that could happen. Good point on the calls for Sweeneys head, but I think everyone at this point is thinking about where they finish, and what the pick will be.
More than me.
If he wants out of Drama Central, my guess is that there will be calls made from Philadelphia first and foremost.
GatorMike
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Money. Prestige.
FWIW, David Carle would be my first choice. Guy is just a winner.
nORRis8
The NHL, the stupidest League ever.
You'd expect the opposite but it played in the Blues favor.
Proof being was the slewfoot in Game 5 on Accarai that refs totally ignored which resulted in a Blues goal seconds later.
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