My vote goes to Dubas. None of these guys were great, but none of them inherited a team like Dubas did. He took the most promising young team in the league and turned them into this...
Who is the worst GM the Leafs have had in the past decade?
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BayStBullies
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Nonis, it's not close. I'm not even a Dubas fan.
CantLoseWithMatthews
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I can understand not being thrilled with Dubas, but this is pretty silly
Buds17
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Nonis. Though the playoff berth in 2013 was with him in the role, the team was very much comprised of additions made by Burke. Nonis was also the last GM prior to the rebuild.
I agree that Nonis was awful. However, you are disregarding the team that Dubas inherited. This was a team poised to become a dynasty. It definitely looked that way before Lou departed. It was a team that set a franchise record for points in a season! Dubas has destroyed that team.
Nonis was terrible, but he inherited an average team at best.
nuck
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Tough call. Club has really been driven by MLSE expectations so none have have looked that good. If you can't build you are just swapping unwanted parts with other organizations and I never had the sense there was any real autonomy prior to the Shanny/Dubas era.
Solid post. Nonis had no choice but to make some of the moves he made. Given the autonomy Dubas enjoys, who knows how he would have fared.
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He had a big mouth, but all things considered he wasn't terrible.
Burke didn't inherit a franchise record breaking team with a golden young core, rated by Vegas to have the best odds at the cup. He took over that team, turned it into a bubble team and finally missed the playoffs altogether.
hockeyes
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I don't think Dubas has done a great job either but to say the team was poised to become a dynasty is a hilariously bad take. Poised to win a playoff series maybe.
Buds17
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I think Lamoriello inherited a situation that was worse in comparison to Nonis. The team at least hasn't missed the playoffs under Dubas, though I would say that they did fall back this season (eliminated from a series with 24 teams competing, as opposed to the Round of 16/first round eliminations). A case could be made that Dubas isn't the best. I can't call him the worst though. Fair enough if you disagree.
It was a team coming off the most successful regular season in the history of the franchise, rated to be the most likely to win a cup. A team with a deadly young trio and a decent supporting squad. But then Mr. "We can and we will" came along.
Over exaggeration? Maybe. Hilariously bad? I don't think so.
We did miss the playoffs, this season. We were a bubble team the last season. This is after we set a franchise record in points in Lou's last year.
We have been getting progressively worse every year with Dubas at the helm.
But the team hasn't really gotten worse, they've just treaded water. Disappointing enough given the promise they have, but there's still time to turn it around.
I beg to differ. I will repeat once more: the team went from a franchise record in points, to missing the playoffs. How is this not getting worse?
I agree that there is time to turn it around, but it won't happen with Dubas. And time is quickly running out.
mcleex
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I wouldn't count Tavares coming here as anything beneficial Dubas did, Tavares wanted to come here. Other than the Muzzin trade what else has he done?
Hand out horrible contracts
Traded Kadri for the worst defenseman I've ever seen in my life
Traded away the 13th overall pick for nothing
Went along with Garret Sparks
Nic Petan - absolute garbage
Dubass is absolute garbage and in way over his head
Hand out horrible contracts
Traded Kadri for the worst defenseman I've ever seen in my life
Traded away the 13th overall pick for nothing
Went along with Garret Sparks
Nic Petan - absolute garbage
Dubass is absolute garbage and in way over his head
Mickey Marner
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Damn, tough to decide. Nonis signed two contracts that we're still paying off, so probably him.
Fletcher and JFJ were garbage too.
This is why I reminisce about the Pat Quinn era.
Fletcher and JFJ were garbage too.
This is why I reminisce about the Pat Quinn era.
Best in order imo
1.Lou
2.Burke
3.Dubas
4.Nonnis
Assets Dubas pissed away:
JVR.
Bozak.
Gardiner.
Kadri.
13th overall.
The whole mofoing cap.
1.Lou
2.Burke
3.Dubas
4.Nonnis
Assets Dubas pissed away:
JVR.
Bozak.
Gardiner.
Kadri.
13th overall.
The whole mofoing cap.
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Buds17
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This year's post season situation is debatable IMO. They played a series of five games against the same team and were eliminated, which is the same manner in which a playoff series works. However, there was also the matter of the lost draft pick and a NYR team winning the right to draft 1st overall (without trading for it) while also having had a chance to compete for the Cup that says otherwise. I have mixed feelings on the subject. I do consider the timing of the elimination as a step back, which I mentioned in the previous post.
hamzarocks
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Best too worse
1. Lou
2. Dubas
3. Burke
4. Nonis
Lou wasnt too special here but he only got 2 seasons where playoffs were the goal. Could have built the team better had he stayed.
Dubas has messed things up despite good intentions. He lacked experience but is learning things on the rush. Hopefully he fixes the teams issues this year so next season
Burke wasnt a patient man and tried trading big but had little patience for rebuilding. He assessed our situation completely wrong and costs us high end stars as a result.
Nonis was the worse GM of the decade clearly. Sucked at drafting, trading and UFA signings. If Nonis had his way with the team wed be still rebuilding right now due to franson and bolland deals killing us the past few years.
1. Lou
2. Dubas
3. Burke
4. Nonis
Lou wasnt too special here but he only got 2 seasons where playoffs were the goal. Could have built the team better had he stayed.
Dubas has messed things up despite good intentions. He lacked experience but is learning things on the rush. Hopefully he fixes the teams issues this year so next season
Burke wasnt a patient man and tried trading big but had little patience for rebuilding. He assessed our situation completely wrong and costs us high end stars as a result.
Nonis was the worse GM of the decade clearly. Sucked at drafting, trading and UFA signings. If Nonis had his way with the team wed be still rebuilding right now due to franson and bolland deals killing us the past few years.
Im confident that Burke had no choice (MLSE direction) . If he was given the right to build this team as he saw fit he might still be the GM today. He is a very smart guy.
Maplebeasts
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No need to sugar coat it. This is f***ing stupid. The fact Dubas has more votes than Brian Burke is damn hilarious.
The only thing that is hilarious is how hilariously bad of a GM Dubas is. And possibly also your eye for judging GM talent.
Please, save yourself the embarrassment and never compare Burke with Dubas again. One was an impatient GM who wasn't terrible, one has completely sunken the most promising team in the league.
At the end of the day, Burke left the team with better assets than what he received. But we've been getting worse and worse every year with wonder boy in charge.
Mats13
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This is Nonis. Anyone voting for Dubas needs a reality check.
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