Speculation: Which teams would realistically be able and willing to sign Draisaitl if he didn't sign in Edmonton?

McVespa99

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IMO after paying those ridiculous tax rates in Canada, he would be wise to look at Dallas, FL, Vegas, Seattle, Nashville, Tampa....and not lose money on those 41 game checks for home games.
You sign a 12 million AAV in Edmonton at 7 years, you are losing what? 4-5 million in taxes over 7 seasons....yuck.
Do you really think 4-5 million over 7 seasons matters when he is going to make well over 150 million for his career?
 

McVespa99

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If the oilers sign him and #97 along with Bouchard while having Nurse that would likely eat up close to 50 million in cap. For how many years have people mocked the leafs for 40 million on the core four? This would essentially be the same assuming the cap gets to 100 million.
No team has won a cup with even two 10 million dollar contracts and having four players eating half your cap is worse.

If the oilers don't win a cup this year it will only get harder and that would be what 6 years of playoffs with this core?
Then again they brought in a GM who loves spending cap space so maybe it happens?

Personally I think you take Drai away from #97 and his point totals drop, a lot. I mean the pp alone he's constantly left open because teams double up #97.

Then you have the possible package you could potentially get a 1D and a lesser 2c + etc.

I get they made the finals but they were also 1 loss away from bowing out in the 2nd round and have had 5 attempts with these two and every year the excuse has been depth or goaltending. If they run back with those four taking up more than half the cap and a very shallow prospect pool, how are things any different?
The difference is the Oilers produce when it matters. Having 40 million tied up in 4 players is not a death sentence if those players produce at a high level in the playoffs. 3 of those 4 Oilers players do. The Leafs 4 do not. That is why its a problem. Its not the $. Its the lack of production for the $.
 

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The difference is the Oilers produce when it matters. Having 40 million tied up in 4 players is not a death sentence if those players produce at a high level in the playoffs. 3 of those 4 Oilers players do. The Leafs 4 do not. That is why its a problem. Its not the $. Its the lack of production for the $.

The Oilers also have a high end dmen in their 4 also which is something the Leafs haven’t had in years. If Toronto redistributed Marner or Tavares salary into an elite dmen they would probably be better off but they’ve insisted on spending that cap all on forwards.
 

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The Oilers also have a high end dmen in their 4 also which is something the Leafs haven’t had in years. If Toronto redistributed Marner or Tavares salary into an elite dmen they would probably be better off but they’ve insisted on spending that cap all on forwards.
True. They would be better served if they could turn Marner or Tavares into a top end Dman. I have trouble seeing any path for that to happen though for all the reasons that have been discussed to death on here already
 

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He is the type of player you make room for if he picks your team. As a Canucks fan, you trade Pettersson or you trade Miller and let Boeser walk and hope to get younger players ack to fill the line up. In the same way Tampa let Stamkos leave to sign Guentzel, the team he picks moves pieces around to make room.
 

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Do you really think 4-5 million over 7 seasons matters when he is going to make well over 150 million for his career?
Yes
You are using the overall value of the contract as your "Career Earnings", however deduct, 13.5% for escrow, 3-4% for agent fee's, and roughly 45-51% all inclusive Tax rate.
Most CPA/Tax advisors, forecast that for every 1,000,000 in NHL Contracts, the actual earnings after tax, fees, escrow, is roughly 395,000 - 410,000.

So yeah Leon is losing quite a bit by playing in a non-tax state, over the course of his career.
 
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McVespa99

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You are using the overall value of the contract as your "Career Earnings", however deduct, 13.5% for escrow, 3-4% for agent fee's, and roughly 45-51% all inclusive Tax rate.
Most CPA/Tax advisors, forecast that for every 1,000,000 in NHL Contracts, the actual earnings after tax, fees, escrow, is roughly 395,000 - 410,000.

So yeah Leon is losing quite a bit by playing in a non-tax state, over the course of his career.
You are oversimplifying it. A good accountant can do wonders. Anyway I just dont think thats an issue. Just my opinion.
 
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Bizarre statement. Our team is full of two way players. We've been a good defensive team able to make marginal goalies look good. We need clutch scoring. Astounding your post got likes. It's like people think it was a burn instead of I'll informed. HF never change.
Why’d your team just spend a bunch of money of dman this season?
 

scarbrow

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Yes
You are using the overall value of the contract as your "Career Earnings", however deduct, 13.5% for escrow, 3-4% for agent fee's, and roughly 45-51% all inclusive Tax rate.
Most CPA/Tax advisors, forecast that for every 1,000,000 in NHL Contracts, the actual earnings after tax, fees, escrow, is roughly 395,000 - 410,000.

So yeah Leon is losing quite a bit by playing in a non-tax state, over the course of his career.
Forgetting to include that playing in Canada he's paid in USD which converts to about 25% more in CAD
Edit...wow haven't looked at the exchange recently more like 38%
 
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Zerotonine

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Forgetting to include that playing in paid in USD which converts to about 25% more in CAD
Edit...wow haven't looked at the exchange recently more like 38%
Yeah but don't leave out how canada is 3x as expensive to live then the usa
 

Garbageyuk

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The usual suspects; LA, BOS, NYR

Other possibilities depending on their outlook: DAL, COL, PHI, VGK, TB, FLA
 

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You are using the overall value of the contract as your "Career Earnings", however deduct, 13.5% for escrow, 3-4% for agent fee's, and roughly 45-51% all inclusive Tax rate.
Most CPA/Tax advisors, forecast that for every 1,000,000 in NHL Contracts, the actual earnings after tax, fees, escrow, is roughly 395,000 - 410,000.

So yeah Leon is losing quite a bit by playing in a non-tax state, over the course of his career.
Edmonton and Calgary are probably middle of the league as far as total income taxes go
 
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DingerMcSlapshot

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Any team could sign him. If they want to cash strap themselves. I truly think most teams would rather spent 13-15M wiser. Draisaitl and his next contract could end up being one of the worst in the league. Even more so if he doesn't sign in Edmonton.
 

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Any team could sign him. If they want to cash strap themselves. I truly think most teams would rather spent 13-15M wiser. Draisaitl and his next contract could end up being one of the worst in the league. Even more so if he doesn't sign in Edmonton.
There isn't a team in the league that wouldn't sign Drai to 13 mil per if given the opportunity.
 
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Zerotonine

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Any team could sign him. If they want to cash strap themselves. I truly think most teams would rather spent 13-15M wiser. Draisaitl and his next contract could end up being one of the worst in the league. Even more so if he doesn't sign in Edmonton.
Is this for real???

You mean paying arguably a top 3rd player in the league like a top 3rd player will backfire on said team signing the deal? 🤣🤣🤣
 

BlueBaron

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Why’d your team just spend a bunch of money of dman this season?
Well you know teams need defensemen....Brodie had to be replaced...

You know this has nothing to do with our forwards generally being good 2 way players right?
 

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