Which of these overachieving teams sustain it?

[GreatSaveEssensa]

"Silly"? They started off 15-1 and are on pace for for the best season in NHL history. The notion that they aren't punching above their weight is beyond silly. There's a difference between being legit and being better than the dynasty Habs.

I think you’re the only one comparing them to the dynasty Habs.

Obviously no team will keep up that pace, and I haven't seen anyone who said otherwise.

But the Jets are certainly capable of winning the Presidents trophy. Teams that are in the running to do that are never considered to be ‘punching WAY above their weight class’ as it was put.

 

[JPeeper]

Buffalo Sabres out of these.

Each of Jets, Wild, and Flames have relied on their goalies vastly outplaying the opposition. As for Capitals, I'm just assuming every player is on a hot streak to start the season, I don't know how they're so good. But, I'm more confident in them sustaining it than any of these other three.

I caveat this by saying that Wolf is propping the Flames up and I think he is our MVP, but the team in front of him has outplayed their opponent a majority of the games this year. Flames are devoid of talent, but they are arguably the hardest working team in the NHL which is why they don't get blown out (Utah and Vegas games not withstanding). Even against Ottawa where we took 9 penalties we only lost by a goal. Against the Jets was probably the only game where I think we thoroughly got outplayed and we still only lost by 2 (1 being an empty netter).

Flames could easily be a WC team by the end of the year.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Jets - 22GP 18-4
Wild - 21GP 13-4-4
Flames - 22GP 12-7-3
Capitals - 21GP 14-6-1
Sabres - 21GP 11-9-1

There's no such thing as overachieving. You can't achieve more than your capabilities.

 

[nowhereman]

I think you’re the only one comparing them to the dynasty Habs.

Obviously no team will keep up that pace, and I haven't seen anyone who said otherwise.

But the Jets are certainly capable of winning the Presidents trophy. Teams that are in the running to do that are never considered to be ‘punching WAY above their weight class’ as it was put.

The term 'punching above one's weight' means performing or achieving results better than expected and beyond one's ability, skill, experience etc. If you yourself don't think that the Jets can keep up their current 135 point pace, which would be the best season in NHL history, what are we even talking about here? The question of this thread is not whether or not the Jets can win the President's Trophy but whether they can sustain their current pace. They can't and they won't.

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

The term 'punching above one's weight' means performing or achieving results better than expected and beyond one's ability, skill, experience etc. If you yourself don't think that the Jets can keep up their current 135 point pace, which would be the best season in NHL history, what are we even talking about here? The question of this thread is not whether or not the Jets can win the President's Trophy but whether they can sustain their current pace. They can't and they won't.

I take issue with the ‘WAY above their weight’ comment. They were 4th in the entire league last season. So obviously one of the top teams. To this point in the season they are #1. So not ‘WAY’ above where the were last year at all.

It’s the extreme hyperbole on your comment that is the problem.

 

[State of Hockey]

Wild looked absolutely phenomenal last night even in the loss. Relentless pressure. Looked sustainable to me

They were uncommonly good in that game. And it was a rare case where they lose a game they had a significant overall edge in territory. They do the opposite to their opponent quite regularly.

Came back down to earth tonight and yet win. I've seen this script over and over. Nothing in their advanced stat lines says it's sustainable over the course of a season. They're still that bubble team many predicted but on a hot run. They've banked enough points to make a playoff berth very likely, but they're the team you want to play in April.

How is f*** Minnesota doing so well? Hynes is legitimately one of the worst coaches I've ever seen when he was in NJ, and Preds fans don't look fondly upon his time there either.

New coach effect in Minnesota. We've done this over and over with coaches. We've had a year or part of a year like this early in a coach's tenure with Evason, Boudreau, and even Yeo. There is a culture here of treating the regular season like the playoffs and working hard with structure for a stretch. It doesn't lead to playoff success, and in fact works against it because is gives the owners, management, and fanbase a false sense of their standing in the league.