Which is better

[catbellysqueezer]

I can't make polls yet, but I wanted to ask, which do you guys think is better right now AND in a few years:

A) Couturier's defensive/shutdown ability

Or

B) Gostisbehere's offensive/opportunity-generating ability

Discuss, or delete this thread if it sucks. Thanks!

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[Dabest]

Hmm thats a tough one, ill go with Ghost's offense tho

 

[bb12]

I think it is a now vs then question

Right now, its Ghosts offensive ability. Down the road it can be completely opposite.

We havent had much of an offensive dynamo in a long time besides Streit who is offensively gifted but not the dynamics Ghost brings.

We have other 2 way fowards that while not on the level of Coots serve that role.

So as of now i think Ghosts offensive ability outweights Coots defensive poweress. But in 2 or 3 years when we add 2-3 more of our big 5 dmen, Ghosts offensive skills become less of a team requirement as we have others doing a similar role even if its not at his level.

 

[CodyTheHuman]

Couturier's defense. Without him being able to shutdown other team's big guns we still wouldn't be able to score enough to win games.

 

[whitstifier]

Couturier's defense. Without him being able to shutdown other team's big guns we still wouldn't be able to score enough to win games.

I guess I would lean this way too. Both really special players though.

 

[dats81]

need both to win a cup

 

[tuckrr]

need both to win a cup

Agreed.
I think if you look at their potential (and I mean absolute best) it's Toews vs EK

That's a tough choice, but I lean Toews. That said, I think Ghost is far more likely to reach that potential than Cooter. I think SC was rushed a bit, and has lacked the confidence to develop his offensive game. Two-way play means scoring a bunch as well.

Ghost will never be able to defend the bigger players, but he's already learning that good positioning can go a long way. I think he'll be an adequate defender, but league leader in offense.

 

[markzab]

Couts, and I'm surprised this is even up for debate. No offense to Ghost, because he's awesome.

Didn't we lose like every game this year when Couts was out? Didn't we still win games when Ghost wasn't up?

As of right now, Couts's defense has a much bigger effect, but if Ghost becomes the player he's showing us he can be, sometime down the line, my response could change.

 

[backburner]

I think Couts especially for the PK and our bottom 6 elite PIM takers.

Keeps us in the game while Ghost has the skill set to push the iWin button

 

[Curufinwe]

A.

This year Couturier's defense has gone to a new level. His puck possession numbers are incredible.

 

[PhillyCurt12]

The real question is who would be the better player overall, Coots at D or Ghost at W?

 

[Flyotes]

Yep, Cout's D.

His stats vs star players are absurd.

Ghost is dynamic on O, but Cout's is a blackhole that absorbs points from superstars.

Ghost will be flashy but not amazing every game, Couts is a law of gravity.

/hype

 

[markzab]

Couts, and I'm surprised this is even up for debate. No offense to Ghost, because he's awesome.

Didn't we lose like every game this year when Couts was out? Didn't we still win games when Ghost wasn't up?

As of right now, Couts's defense has a much bigger effect, but if Ghost becomes the player he's showing us he can be, sometime down the line, my response could change.

Wasn't he out again tonight? Ugh

 

[Vlad*]

Gostisbehere for the gamebreaking ability, really REALLY close though.

lucky to have both honestly

 

[Beef Invictus]

Yeah, I have a hard time choosing because my brain keeps going to "holy lord of the dance, we have both."

 

[CodyTheHuman]

I think tonight is a good example of why Couturier is more important.

 

[tuckrr]

I think tonight is a good example of why Couturier is more important.

We can't get past the pens without him.

 

[Cyborg LeClair]

Coots D is second to only a couple players in the league. It's very important to the success of this franchise. Ghost brings a great revelation on the backend right now, but in a couple years when we have Provorov, Sanheim, Morin, Myers, Hagg, Friedman, etc ready for the team, will Ghost still be more important than Coots?

I'd say, lets hold onto both for their careers and never ask this question again

 

[catbellysqueezer]

Good points being made here, but I have a new question.

Would Giroux - Couturier - Gostisbehere be an effective 3 on 3 grouping?

 

[CodyTheHuman]

Good points being made here, but I have a new question.

Would Giroux - Couturier - Gostisbehere be an effective 3 on 3 grouping?

Giroux and Couturier always look good together, but that isn't a very good way of spreading your talent.