hockeyauthority
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So there are 12 people who have voted him 1-10? I just can't see it. Fortunately almost everyone else on this board agrees with me. Messier is a guy you need to look further into in order to vote for him properly. Looking at the stats sheet is useless and only the stat sheet is useless.
Yes, he has more points than Howe and everyone else not named Gretzky in NHL history. What the uneducated viewer will see is that Messier played in a high scoring era which explains the high point totals. Hey he did fine in that department, its just that there are some who did it much better. I mean Ron Francis has more points all time than Dionne and Esposito. Anyone care to explain Francis as the better scorer? He wasn't, but he has the longevity over the two of them so isn't it obvious that he'll get the points.
In reality it is a shame Messier hung around for so long when the game clearly passed him by. Now does that hurt what he did before? No, but because of that he ends up passing Howe on the all-time scoring list. We all know Messier is not Gordie Howe under any circumstance but it's stuff like this that contribute to people ranking him higher than he truly deserves to be. Howe had a 100 point season as a 40 year old. At that age Messier was a liability to his team.
By the way does anyone else think Ted Lindsay is a guy that can be ranked ahead of Messier? A good argument for sure
Yes, he has more points than Howe and everyone else not named Gretzky in NHL history. What the uneducated viewer will see is that Messier played in a high scoring era which explains the high point totals. Hey he did fine in that department, its just that there are some who did it much better. I mean Ron Francis has more points all time than Dionne and Esposito. Anyone care to explain Francis as the better scorer? He wasn't, but he has the longevity over the two of them so isn't it obvious that he'll get the points.
In reality it is a shame Messier hung around for so long when the game clearly passed him by. Now does that hurt what he did before? No, but because of that he ends up passing Howe on the all-time scoring list. We all know Messier is not Gordie Howe under any circumstance but it's stuff like this that contribute to people ranking him higher than he truly deserves to be. Howe had a 100 point season as a 40 year old. At that age Messier was a liability to his team.
By the way does anyone else think Ted Lindsay is a guy that can be ranked ahead of Messier? A good argument for sure