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Ovechkin was older than matthews is when he won his only chip and is considered one of the greatest to ever play.

Lots of emotional leaf fans but the reality is you just need to give yourself a chance every year (make the playoffs) and eventually the chips will fall in place one year, lots of puck luck involved in winning it all. Matthews is a top 5 player in the league and you would be crazy to move on from him, marner im not as sure about but i think its worth exploring an extension. Tavares needs to go for better cap value players.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
Marner probably walks. Tavares is gone unless he takes a huge paycut. They'll likely get a big UFA to come in.

One thing they should also do is be more transparent on Matthews' injury. I get they don't want to put a target on that area but they aren't doing anyone any favours by being so secretive. There needs to be a little more information available to the public so they can understand what he's dealing with.
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All the UFAs are over the hill or overrated... there is not much out there, I also don't like Treliving handing out contracts.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
Sam Bennett is interesting. I know there are tons of teams that will be interested. I'd love to see him in Montreal.
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I think there will be no shortage of suitors for Sam Bennett and I can't imagine a scenario where joining the Maple Leafs would be the best choice for him. I think he will have his pick of many exciting opportunities and chances to win more championships. Short of making him the largest offer, I don't see why he'd end up in Toronto.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
Sam Bennett is interesting. I know there are tons of teams that will be interested. I'd love to see him in Montreal.
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He falls under overrated for me.

He will be expensive because he is a cheap shot artist and tough, but his point totals/defensive play are not going to be worth his price tag.

He's also past his prime and I could see him falling off a lot.

This also fits the mold of what Treliving likes, older, tough, doesn't produce a whole lot, is the name everyone wants... so they likely will try to sign him and it'll be for something terrible like $9 million.
 
notbias said:
He falls under overrated for me.

He will be expensive because he is a cheap shot artist and tough, but his point totals/defensive play are not going to be worth his price tag.

He's also past his prime and I could see him falling off a lot.

This also fits the mold of what Treliving likes, older, tough, doesn't produce a whole lot, is the name everyone wants... so they likely will try to sign him and it'll be for something terrible like $9 million.
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Money obviously matters. But he's the kind of player the Leafs have needed for a long time.
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
Money obviously matters. But he's the kind of player the Leafs have needed for a long time.
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I disagree... they've tried to make teams tough/defensive/whatever and it always comes back to not being able to score.

Bennett doesn't help enough there.

Maybe they can score by committee in the future, Bennett is a decent start, but not for his likely price tag.
 
notbias said:
I disagree... they've tried to make teams tough/defensive/whatever and it always comes back to not being able to score.

Bennett doesn't help enough there.
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Why do you think they haven't been able to score? They have four super talented guys out there. Why can't they score?

Think about it...
notbias said:
Maybe they can score by committee in the future, Bennett is a decent start, but not for his likely price tag.
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That's a different story. Money always tells the tale. The player is what they need but it always depends on the cash.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
Why do you think they haven't been able to score? They have four super talented guys out there. Why can't they score?

Think about it...
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They load up the top two lines and ride them til the wheels fall off.

And then they hope they get 50/50 hockey out of the bottom two and they never do.

Go check the bottom 6 of Toronto right now and tell me that they have done their job.

They have the talent to run three scoring lines and never do.

Nylander can drive his own line, Matthews has produced with two grinders, give Tavares two plugs who grind for a 3rd line, he used to put up great numbers in NY with those linemates, Marner had a 94 point season with Kadri/Marleau, they never have tried spreading out the talent, and it is terrible and I think their biggest issue.
 
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I guess I'm a little late to the thread, but has anyone mentioned the potential of a Wood-Buffalo / Maple-Leafs relocation?

Hear me out:

Sell 2 new franchise to Toronto and make billions in merch rebrand, get cream-of-the-crop expansion draft picks AND have 2 teams controlled by Big Media down-East.

Build two new barns and reap the concert revenues from Maple Leaf gardens and the other barn( ACC ) (where they play head-to-head 21 times a season) , while milking Hamilton and Brampton (or wherever) for the rest of the time.

The only question is what are the hot new colour pallettes.

IMO
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
Money obviously matters. But he's the kind of player the Leafs have needed for a long time.
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Bennett won't get away with what he does in Florida if he signs in Toronto, or any other Canadian market for that matter.

I don't want him anyway, dudes a 50 point player about to get like 8×7 in UFA. Gonna be a horrible contract.
 
FerrisRox said:
Uh... what are you talking about?

Nobody said any such thing, because those players didn't fizzle out spring after spring in the playoffs.

If you take Matthew two best playoffs, and combine them, he has 22 points. Yzerman posted playoffs of 18 points and 20 points before ever winning the Cup.

In just his second playoff, Ovechkin had 21 points in just 14-games. He scored almost as many as Matthews two career-best post seasons in just 14 games.

Your comparison is clueless and nobody was calling Yzerman and Ovie playoff duds cause they quite obviously weren't.
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The Yzerman comparison makese a bit of sense, but the Detroit teams that won Cups made some drastic changes to stop being perennial playoff chokers.

It helped having a top 5 d-man of all time in Lidstrom emerge
 
figs should make another Stanley Cup playoff video for the fans like they did in 1993
but problem was there was no footage of the final????

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sampollock said:
figs should make another Stanley Cup playoff video for the fans like they did in 1993
but problem was there was no footage of the final????

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I wish I was joking: The Toronto Maple Leafs actually issued "Norris Division Champion" rings to the team following that playoff.

This is not a joke, they really did that.
 

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nerevarine said:
Ovechkin was older than matthews is when he won his only chip and is considered one of the greatest to ever play.

Lots of emotional leaf fans but the reality is you just need to give yourself a chance every year (make the playoffs) and eventually the chips will fall in place one year, lots of puck luck involved in winning it all. Matthews is a top 5 player in the league and you would be crazy to move on from him, marner im not as sure about but i think its worth exploring an extension. Tavares needs to go for better cap value players.
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Ovie had playoff years where he averaged 1.5ppg and the Caps failures were due to subpar blueline. The Leafs have folded because the core 4 no showed for the most part when needed.
 
notbias said:
I disagree... they've tried to make teams tough/defensive/whatever and it always comes back to not being able to score.

Bennett doesn't help enough there.

Maybe they can score by committee in the future, Bennett is a decent start, but not for his likely price tag.
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What skill forward with toughness did the Leafs add? Am I missing someone other than Domi?
 
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