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Where do the Leafs go if they blow it yet again?

If they let Marner & Tavares walk, they could actually retool in UFA. Theese players could actually make the team better:

Granlund 3x 5M
Bennett 3x 6,5M
Marchand 2x 5M

Makes the team harder to play against and theese guys have shown they actually can produce in the playoffs and play 200ft. It also leaves money for Knies and some upgrades for other positions. I feel it would be better than throwing 13M at Marner and 9-9,5M on Tavares?

Except those numbers are low.

Bennet is getting 7x8.5
Grnalund I'm guessing is 3x6
Marchand 2x6, but no way he signs with toronto
 
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What they should do:
- Let Marner walk (even if it means this has been appalling asset management).
- Offer Tavares $5m x 3 and if he doesn't take it, fine.
- Get rid of Domi, Kampf, Robertson, Jarnkrok, Reaves and Holmberg.
- See the market for Matthews.

What they will do because they have no 1st round picks in 2025, 2026, or 2027:
- Re-sign Marner.
- Re-sign Tavares.
- Make some small tweaks with the bottom 6.
 
Let Marner walk, resign Tavares (wouldn't be surprise he's signed there for less), get some quality grit for bottom 6.
 
If the Leafs are eliminated which it looks like. Shanahan must go, Basically all he has done is build a good regular season team. This team is not built for the playoffs, the leafs are mentally weak and play no heart in the playoffs. This last game really proved this. How do they allow Florida to come into their house and humiliate them with a 6-1 loss, there was absolutely no push back from the Leafs. They need to hire a President that knows how to build the team to win a cup. They have fired coaches and that has not solved it, they have fired GM's and that has not worked, it al points to Shanahan, he needs to go! This core is rotten, Matthews who was billed to be a generational player like McDavid is nowhere near McDavid. Mcdavid plays with heart and wills his team to victory, Matthews can't even score a goal in the playoffs. Mariner showed improvement, he proved with the right players 4 Nations series that he can come through in clutch times. Leafs should try and keep him and trade Matthews.
 
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They showed up flat to a pivotal game 5 at home after blowing a 2-0 series lead... if they get bounced this year, what can the Leafs do at this point? The effort displayed in this game ON HOME ice is absolutely pathetic. :facepalm:


Are the "big 4" the biggest collection irredeemable chokers in the NHL and maybe of all time? Do the Leafs finally break them up and start shipping out some big pieces?
Marner is likely gone............JT may stay at a cheaper contract.
No way the Not so Fab Four are still all there next year.
Once again, everyone told them do not give more $$$$$$ to the same guys, and they did.
Their D and goaltending once again still are not there......spend Marner's money elsewhere.....
 
What were the predictions when it was 2-0 though? That’s what makes it a choke
So why even play if Florida is the better team. A smart President and GM should realize what it will take to win the cup and build that team. If you are the GM and think, well Florida is the better team, then you make moves to make your team better than Florida. You don't settle with the mentallity well this the team I have, it isn't better than Florida, Oh well this is the team I am going to put on the ice gainst them. You have lost the series before it even started. The problem with the Leafs is the core 4, they are not getting it done and it is evident that they will not get it done. The leafs have fired and hired coachs and Gm's and still getting bounced because of no production from the core 4. It needs to be broken up, By keeping them together the Leafs are trying to put a square peg through a round hole, it won't work and it isn't working.
 
No because the Islanders used that Tavares money to get deeper, they would've been the same team they were when JT was there if Tavares stayed with the Islanders
I still don't know about this. The Islanders were basically one goal short in their ECF losses to Tampa in 2020 and 2021. Lost in 2OT of Game 6 in 2020 and lost 1-0 in 2021 in Game 7. The Trotz gameplan was "sit back and wait for the other guys to make a mistake." In 2020 they had only two guys with multiple goals in that 6 game series. Only 4 forwards had more than 2 points, and Barzal was the leader (4 points, all assists). In 2021, same deal. Barzal led the team with 5 points in a seven game series, no one else even had 4. Pageau, Palmieri, Bailey, Beauvillier, and Nelson COMBINED for 6 points in a 7 game series. The depth clearly was not good enough. They ended up losing Devon Toews anyway. I think they really might've had a better chance with Tavares, but I see your point.
 
Maybe this is finally the year Shanny gets kicked to the curb by the higher-ups........over a decade of absolute failure.

....On the ice, I should say. Leafs still continue to print money in this city, with a 10+ year waiting list for season tickets and fans decked in Leafs merch just packing the barn every single game - even if they don't always stay for the full 60. :laugh:
 
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They showed up flat to a pivotal game 5 at home after blowing a 2-0 series lead... if they get bounced this year, what can the Leafs do at this point? The effort displayed in this game ON HOME ice is absolutely pathetic. :facepalm:


Are the "big 4" the biggest collection irredeemable chokers in the NHL and maybe of all time? Do the Leafs finally break them up and start shipping out some big pieces?

I don’t think it is fair to constantly group them as the big four.

It’s the two main guys who are the culprits.
 
This seems pretty easy. Let Marner walk, coast for a year, offer McDavid the world.

If you know you have zero shot at mcDavid, then re-sign Marner, and ride this core to underachieving greatness and hope they figure it out.
 

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