Where are McDavid and Draisaitl when it matters?

[amikaro]

Yes, its entirely Mcdavids fault he got shutdown for two games in a row.

it's hard to call it "fault" if a team focuses all their power on taking you out of the game. with all that focus, you might think there's room for other guys to step up.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

it's hard to call it "fault" if a team focuses all their power on taking you out of the game. with all that focus, you might think there's room for other guys to step up.

If only McDavid knew how to cycle a puck and battle down low. Not much open ice in the playoffs.

 

[quackquackquack]

Stat readers will say McDavid is a PPG player in this series but he has had all 3 points in 1 game and they are all secondary assists. We torched Stamkos for not showing up when it mattered. We did the same to Tavares. When will we hold McDavid accountable? You can't be the 2nd coming and keep doing this.

 

[Mrb1p]

it's hard to call it "fault" if a team focuses all their power on taking you out of the game. with all that focus, you might think there's room for other guys to step up.

Its been like that his whole career, why is it not working now?

 

[Mrb1p]

Imagine the "best player since Lemieux" not even being able to outplay Mark Scheifele.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Imagine the "best player since Lemieux" not even being able to outplay Mark Scheifele.

You don't recall all those years of Mike Ricci shuting down Lemieux?

 

[Eternal Leaf]

it's hard to call it "fault" if a team focuses all their power on taking you out of the game. with all that focus, you might think there's room for other guys to step up.

To be fair, even if his team had depth, Mcdavid would be getting the toughest matchups. That won't be changing for the rest of his prime.

However, Drai can use this excuse cause he would get secondary matchups on a better Oilers team.

 

[Mrb1p]

You don't recall all those years of Mike Ricci shuting down Lemieux?

Lemieux was never shut down.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Lemieux was never shut down.

Closest thing would be the 1st round matchup between Pittsburgh and Washington in 1994. Lemieux went pointless in Games 3 and 4 of the series which the Penguins both lost and were ultimately the difference in the series as the Caps took it in six. Lemieux did get 7 points in 6 games in that series, and did make the difference in Pittsburgh's Game 2 victory, but overall he couldn't do enough to help the Pens win the series.

 

[Evincar]

I don’t think McMuffin will ever win in Edmonton until he learns how to play defence. He needs to stop cherry picking at the blue line.

Lots of blown coverage last night. Just a one dimensional player right now

I mean he scored 0 points in the first 2 games which put them in a 0-2 hole. Why are we focused on his defense? If you exclude the Chicago games he hasnt been good offensively in the playoffs.

 

[Mrb1p]

Closest thing would be the 1st round matchup between Pittsburgh and Washington in 1994. Lemieux went pointless in Games 3 and 4 of the series which the Penguins both lost and were ultimately the difference in the series as the Caps took it in six. Lemieux did get 7 points in 6 games in that series, and did make the difference in Pittsburgh's Game 2 victory, but overall he couldn't do enough to help the Pens win the series.

Yes, same same. Mcdavid had two back surgeries and chemo for lymphoma in the prior year?

 

[c9777666]

For those saying the team just needs better goaltending and depth, if you magically add goaltending and depth you become the 2018-2019 Lightning, great at winning regular season games and swept in the playoffs. It wasn't until Tampa committed to team defense and being content to win games 2-1 rather than 6-4 that the playoff success came.

They won the Cup because Vasilevsky actually remembered how to stop pucks in the playoffs and not allow soft goals

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

Yes, same same. Mcdavid had two back surgeries and chemo for lymphoma in the prior year?

McDavid has a worse back injury issue... Oilers-Franchise-0litus

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Lemieux was never shut down.

I was joking.

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

Yes, same same. Mcdavid had two back surgeries and chemo for lymphoma in the prior year?

Obviously not the same. Lemieux was a playoff beast, McDavid still has to prove he can be more than a playoff lamb.

 

[nammerus]

I mean he scored 0 points in the first 2 games which put them in a 0-2 hole. Why are we focused on his defense? If you exclude the Chicago games he hasnt been good offensively in the playoffs.

Hilarious to see EDM fans bring up the play-in against Chi as some kind of badge of honour. They were a bottom 10 team that wouldn’t have sniffed the playoffs in a normal year.

For comparison sakes, his counterpart Toews had 7 pt in 4 games that series. Defence was optional.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Hilarious to see EDM fans bring up the play-in against Chi as some kind of badge of honour. They were a bottom 10 team that wouldn’t have sniffed the playoffs in a normal year.

For comparison sakes, his counterpart Toews had 7 pt in 4 games that series. Defence was optional.

They keep bringing that up. Chicago was what, a #12 seed? Oilers (#4 seed) still lost. No commitment to defense.

 

[RickChartraw]

golfing?

:i'm here all week:

 

[Lukin1978]

McDavid has a worse back injury issue... Oilers-Franchise-0litus

That sounds contagious

 

[BoneDocUK]

Imagine the "best player since Lemieux" not even being able to outplay Mark Scheifele.

I mean, sure, but Scheifele isn't some lunch-bucket scrub sent out to kneecap the Great 97 every time he steps on the ice. He's a legit PPG centre himself with an excellent playoff track record and the size, skill and speed to play strong D when he has to. And Lowry, Copp, Perrault, Morrissey, DeMeloand Pionk are no fun to play against if the Jets are able to match.

McDavid is a great player, and Drai is a very, very good one. But narratives that cast the Oilers as Cup champs in waiting, and the Jets as plucky journeyman with an impossible dream fail to note that these underdogs have an elite forward corps and some very strong 2-way players. There isn't really a walkover matchup for McDrai with the possible exception of the Jets kinda-sorta first line, but even that line has two top-end scorers in Connor and Scheifele, while McDavid is barely-average on D and Drai rarely seems interested in playing D so far as I can tell.

Not sure McDrai can be blamed for not carrying the Oilers to an easy series win. But it's hard to see which team they were going to roll over with this lineup and pressure, IMO, no matter how well they played as a 1- or 2-man unit.

 

[Mrb1p]

I mean, sure, but Scheifele isn't some lunch-bucket scrub sent out to kneecap the Great 97 every time he steps on the ice. He's a legit PPG centre himself with an excellent playoff track record and the size, skill and speed to play strong D when he has to. And Lowry, Copp, Perrault, Morrissey, DeMeloand Pionk are no fun to play against if the Jets are able to match.

McDavid is a great player, and Drai is a very, very good one. But narratives that cast the Oilers as Cup champs in waiting, and the Jets as plucky journeyman with an impossible dream fail to note that these underdogs have an elite forward corps and some very strong 2-way players. There isn't really a walkover matchup for McDrai with the possible exception of the Jets kinda-sorta first line, but even that line has two top-end scorers in Connor and Scheifele, while McDavid is barely-average on D and Drai rarely seems interested in playing D so far as I can tell.

Not sure McDrai can be blamed for not carrying the Oilers to an easy series win. But it's hard to see which team they were going to roll over with this lineup and pressure, IMO, no matter how well they played as a 1- or 2-man unit.

Chill out I didn't say anything bad about your team, no need to put the homer pants on.

 

[Sugi21]

Stat readers will say McDavid is a PPG player in this series but he has had all 3 points in 1 game and they are all secondary assists. We torched Stamkos for not showing up when it mattered. We did the same to Tavares. When will we hold McDavid accountable? You can't be the 2nd coming and keep doing this.

Some Oiler fans are those type of parents who treat their kid as if they can’t do no wrong and deflect the kids errors somewhere so else!

 

[Sugi21]

This won't matter. By this time next year McDavid will have over 700 career points, his 4rth Art Ross, 3rd Hart and 3rd Lindsay.

Maybe to you but I’m sure 97 doesn’t want to be the Marino of the NHL

 

[Sugi21]

If only McDavid knew how to cycle a puck and battle down low. Not much open ice in the playoffs.

Yup he still wants to try beat defenders inside or the outside with his speed but playoffs are tighter checking and Jets aren’t giving him that space. 97 must realize Jets aren’t playing regular season defence it all amps up in the playoffs and he needs to find that playoff gear