Where are McDavid and Draisaitl when it matters?

Status
Not open for further replies.

quackquackquack

Registered User
Oct 10, 2012
2,154
618
Stat readers will say McDavid is a PPG player in this series but he has had all 3 points in 1 game and they are all secondary assists. We torched Stamkos for not showing up when it mattered. We did the same to Tavares. When will we hold McDavid accountable? You can't be the 2nd coming and keep doing this.
 

Eternal Leaf

Registered User
Jul 4, 2011
8,137
9,785
Toronto
it's hard to call it "fault" if a team focuses all their power on taking you out of the game. with all that focus, you might think there's room for other guys to step up.

To be fair, even if his team had depth, Mcdavid would be getting the toughest matchups. That won't be changing for the rest of his prime.

However, Drai can use this excuse cause he would get secondary matchups on a better Oilers team.
 

TheMoreYouKnow

Registered User
May 3, 2007
16,961
3,938
38° N 77° W
Lemieux was never shut down.

Closest thing would be the 1st round matchup between Pittsburgh and Washington in 1994. Lemieux went pointless in Games 3 and 4 of the series which the Penguins both lost and were ultimately the difference in the series as the Caps took it in six. Lemieux did get 7 points in 6 games in that series, and did make the difference in Pittsburgh's Game 2 victory, but overall he couldn't do enough to help the Pens win the series.
 

Evincar

I have found the way
Aug 10, 2012
6,462
778
I don’t think McMuffin will ever win in Edmonton until he learns how to play defence. He needs to stop cherry picking at the blue line.

Lots of blown coverage last night. Just a one dimensional player right now

I mean he scored 0 points in the first 2 games which put them in a 0-2 hole. Why are we focused on his defense? If you exclude the Chicago games he hasnt been good offensively in the playoffs.
 

Mrb1p

PRICERSTOPDAPUCK
Dec 10, 2011
91,953
59,023
Citizen of the world
Closest thing would be the 1st round matchup between Pittsburgh and Washington in 1994. Lemieux went pointless in Games 3 and 4 of the series which the Penguins both lost and were ultimately the difference in the series as the Caps took it in six. Lemieux did get 7 points in 6 games in that series, and did make the difference in Pittsburgh's Game 2 victory, but overall he couldn't do enough to help the Pens win the series.
Yes, same same. Mcdavid had two back surgeries and chemo for lymphoma in the prior year?
 

c9777666

Registered User
Aug 31, 2016
19,892
5,877
For those saying the team just needs better goaltending and depth, if you magically add goaltending and depth you become the 2018-2019 Lightning, great at winning regular season games and swept in the playoffs. It wasn't until Tampa committed to team defense and being content to win games 2-1 rather than 6-4 that the playoff success came.

They won the Cup because Vasilevsky actually remembered how to stop pucks in the playoffs and not allow soft goals
 

nammerus

Registered User
Mar 9, 2003
6,221
4,530
Visit site
I mean he scored 0 points in the first 2 games which put them in a 0-2 hole. Why are we focused on his defense? If you exclude the Chicago games he hasnt been good offensively in the playoffs.

Hilarious to see EDM fans bring up the play-in against Chi as some kind of badge of honour. They were a bottom 10 team that wouldn’t have sniffed the playoffs in a normal year.

For comparison sakes, his counterpart Toews had 7 pt in 4 games that series. Defence was optional.
 

The Grim Reaper

Registered User
Apr 18, 2017
10,804
14,495
Hobart, Tasmania
Hilarious to see EDM fans bring up the play-in against Chi as some kind of badge of honour. They were a bottom 10 team that wouldn’t have sniffed the playoffs in a normal year.

For comparison sakes, his counterpart Toews had 7 pt in 4 games that series. Defence was optional.

They keep bringing that up. Chicago was what, a #12 seed? Oilers (#4 seed) still lost. No commitment to defense.
 

BoneDocUK

Recovering hockey fandoc
Oct 1, 2015
6,962
14,907
Imagine the "best player since Lemieux" not even being able to outplay Mark Scheifele.

I mean, sure, but Scheifele isn't some lunch-bucket scrub sent out to kneecap the Great 97 every time he steps on the ice. He's a legit PPG centre himself with an excellent playoff track record and the size, skill and speed to play strong D when he has to. And Lowry, Copp, Perrault, Morrissey, DeMeloand Pionk are no fun to play against if the Jets are able to match.

McDavid is a great player, and Drai is a very, very good one. But narratives that cast the Oilers as Cup champs in waiting, and the Jets as plucky journeyman with an impossible dream fail to note that these underdogs have an elite forward corps and some very strong 2-way players. There isn't really a walkover matchup for McDrai with the possible exception of the Jets kinda-sorta first line, but even that line has two top-end scorers in Connor and Scheifele, while McDavid is barely-average on D and Drai rarely seems interested in playing D so far as I can tell.

Not sure McDrai can be blamed for not carrying the Oilers to an easy series win. But it's hard to see which team they were going to roll over with this lineup and pressure, IMO, no matter how well they played as a 1- or 2-man unit.
 

Mrb1p

PRICERSTOPDAPUCK
Dec 10, 2011
91,953
59,023
Citizen of the world
I mean, sure, but Scheifele isn't some lunch-bucket scrub sent out to kneecap the Great 97 every time he steps on the ice. He's a legit PPG centre himself with an excellent playoff track record and the size, skill and speed to play strong D when he has to. And Lowry, Copp, Perrault, Morrissey, DeMeloand Pionk are no fun to play against if the Jets are able to match.

McDavid is a great player, and Drai is a very, very good one. But narratives that cast the Oilers as Cup champs in waiting, and the Jets as plucky journeyman with an impossible dream fail to note that these underdogs have an elite forward corps and some very strong 2-way players. There isn't really a walkover matchup for McDrai with the possible exception of the Jets kinda-sorta first line, but even that line has two top-end scorers in Connor and Scheifele, while McDavid is barely-average on D and Drai rarely seems interested in playing D so far as I can tell.

Not sure McDrai can be blamed for not carrying the Oilers to an easy series win. But it's hard to see which team they were going to roll over with this lineup and pressure, IMO, no matter how well they played as a 1- or 2-man unit.
Chill out I didn't say anything bad about your team, no need to put the homer pants on.
 

Sugi21

Registered User
Dec 7, 2016
3,127
2,807
Stat readers will say McDavid is a PPG player in this series but he has had all 3 points in 1 game and they are all secondary assists. We torched Stamkos for not showing up when it mattered. We did the same to Tavares. When will we hold McDavid accountable? You can't be the 2nd coming and keep doing this.
Some Oiler fans are those type of parents who treat their kid as if they can’t do no wrong and deflect the kids errors somewhere so else!
 

Sugi21

Registered User
Dec 7, 2016
3,127
2,807
If only McDavid knew how to cycle a puck and battle down low. Not much open ice in the playoffs.
Yup he still wants to try beat defenders inside or the outside with his speed but playoffs are tighter checking and Jets aren’t giving him that space. 97 must realize Jets aren’t playing regular season defence it all amps up in the playoffs and he needs to find that playoff gear
 
  • Like
Reactions: The Grim Reaper
Status
Not open for further replies.

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad