GDT: WHC QF - Switzerland vs USA

[Dakota Sioux]

I hope you didn't take that the wrong way, seems you did. My apologies.

Nope. All is good

 

[jonas2244]

Concussion for Corvi, by the way.

 

[FinPanda]

Its a shame Switzerland didn't make it to semifinals. So disappointing for them.

 

[Kuracmugger]

Whatever it is Fischer doesnt know it either. Hire someone new, try a new approach and start over.


I hoped so much you were wrong. I had a really good feeling yesterday but I became sort of sceptical before the game started too....

Would love to see a new approach and bring some new fire into the team. I think as someone already said we can‘t handle being the favourites in the qf or even later in the tournament if we’re able to get there

 

[Speyer]

If you think Fischer will be gone, there is no way this gonna happen.

Its more hopefull thinking. I guess it will depend how big the public backlash from the loss will be. Since the group stage was pretty good, it will probably not be big enough.

But honestly, do you still think he his the right guy for the job?

 

[jonas2244]

Its more hopefull thinking. I guess it will depend how big the public backlash from the loss will be. Since the group stage was pretty good, it will probably not be big enough.

But honestly, do you still think he his the right guy for the job?

I don't think there will be much of a difference with another guy. I'm a coach myself, not icehockey but another teamsports. The influence you have during a game is so limited sometime.
And rosterwise there isn't much he could have done differently I guess.

 

[mosare]

this was a perfect example how important goaltending is. swiss don't have good goalkeepers since years

 

[Speyer]

I don't think there will be much of a difference with another guy. I'm a coach myself, not icehockey but another teamsports. The influence you have during a game is so limited sometime.
And rosterwise there isn't much he could have done differently I guess.

Fischer failed to get the team ready for the quarters. They came out not ready in the first period the last two games too and today the same issue. The first line worked significantly better with Kurashev but Fischer insisted on leaving Riat on it. Its not even like the third line with Kurashev played that great since Scherwey went down. Sure the loss isnt on Fischer alone but you can expect the team to have a better gameplan against a team with very good goaltending than just to take volume shots from low danger areas.. A coach can have a huge impact on the outcome of singular games and tournaments. Just look what Jukka Jalonen is doing with Finalnd year in year out, often with worse player material than we had in those tournaments. I wouldnt even question Fischer however if his track record outside the group stage wasnt so bad overall.

I also dont like the "there is no alternative to Fischer" argument. The Czechs just hired Kari Jalonen and are doing fine. And there are some Swiss alternatives like Cereda too. Those are not perfect solutions but sometimes you just have to take a leap of faith.

this was a perfect example how important goaltending is. swiss don't have good goalkeepers since years

Genoni used to be good up until a few years ago but he has been on the decline internationally for a couple of seasons now. Whoever coaches the next WC needs to build up JVP and maybe Schmid sooner than later as the coming tandem.

 

[Czechboy]

this was a perfect example how important goaltending is. swiss don't have good goalkeepers since years

I've mentioned this before... No NHL goalie now or in horizon.

 

[paragon]

this was a perfect example how important goaltending is. swiss don't have good goalkeepers since years

Can't blame the goalie, when you score 0 goals.

 

[SanDogBrewin]

That 2nd period seige by the Swiss had me nervous not gonna lie. US as a team just kept Switzerland on the outside when they had the puck In the offensive zone. Didn’t have a ton of open looks. And the US stayed out of the box for the most part.

That high stick call on Hartman was atrocious. Overall I thought the refs did a good job today. Go USA!!!

 

[torero]

I couldn't watch the game ... i saw the highlights ..
i am happy i did something better than watch that game.
HORROR goals (first two !!)

next year ...maybe.
Better to win a real WC ... when Russians will be back.
we have to win the real one.

 

[Eye of Ra]

Its more hopefull thinking. I guess it will depend how big the public backlash from the loss will be. Since the group stage was pretty good, it will probably not be big enough.

But honestly, do you still think he his the right guy for the job?

who do you want as new coach?

 

[Speyer]

who do you want as new coach?

Doesn't matter. Fischers friends in the federation already confirmed that he will stay in office. Stupid old boys club.

 

[Shawn Heins 44]

Doesn't matter. Fischers friends in the federation already confirmed that he will stay in office. Stupid old boys club.

Since it is a message board I would still be interested who you would put in the seat and is also a realistic option. I am not all for keeping Fischer but genuinely intersted who would take the job and offer a good alternative.

Can't blame the goalie, when you score 0 goals.

Definatley not the biggest part why we lost but you can also not juts ignore the fact that we had 3 goalies play in this tournament and none of them is above 90%, this is not how you win important hockey games. The current generation is by far the best we have ever had but without good goaltending this won't matter much and I also worry about it in the near future.

 

[jonas2244]

If the 0-2 doesn't happen it might be a different game. And that goal is on Genoni, no question.
But it's time to throw in new guys on this position, too. It's not that there aren't any options.

 

[Speyer]

Since it is a message board I would still be interested who you would put in the seat and is also a realistic option. I am not all for keeping Fischer but genuinely intersted who would take the job and offer a good alternative.

I don't have an ideal solution but you could put names like Luca Cereda or Dan Tanges in the ring. I have no idea if they would be interested in the job but I think both are better and more versatile coaches than Fischer. Other than that there are always some good scandinavian coaches looking for a job. The Czechs just hired Kari Jalonen for example and are looking better and better in this tournament. You don't have to like Jalones hockey from an entertainment perspective but you can't deny him his success he had on multiple levels. If the federation had fired Fischer after the olympics I would say there would have been a good chance to hire him. The whole narrative that the only alternative to Fischer would be a Glen Hanlon level coach is jut not valid in my book.