Scott Darling/Cam Ward
Scott Darling/Cam Ward
Experience Canes HockeyMay the fleas of a thousand camels invade your crotch, and may your arms be to short too scratch
There's a world of difference between knowing that this team's defense is a problem and knowing that the system is the root problem. It could be that it would work just fine with better personnel (not necessarily elite defensemen).That's bull. You can't look at the product on the ice and see there is a problem? I know you can.
But as the coach and designer of the system, you can't just put a system in place for some "generic hockey player", you have to design the system to work with your players. The system is the sum total of the procedures and the players that carry it out. If you can't change the players (and he can't), and the procedures aren't working with the players, then the procedures need to be changed. And if he won't change them, change the coach.There's a world of difference between knowing that this team's defense is a problem and knowing that the system is the root problem. It could be that it would work just fine with better personnel (not necessarily elite defensemen).
But as the coach and designer of the system, you can't just put a system in place for some "generic hockey player", you have to design the system to work with your players. The system is the sum total of the procedures and the players that carry it out. If you can't change the players (and he can't), and the procedures aren't working with the players, then the procedures need to be changed. And if he won't change them, change the coach.
I suppose the question is, does a system exist which would make this group of players consistently perform like an actual playoff team?
I don't disagree with any of this. However, this team's failures don't necessarily mean that his system is shit. Then again, maybe these players ran his system about as well as can be expected, therefore this team's failures were evidence that his system is shit.But as the coach and designer of the system, you can't just put a system in place for some "generic hockey player", you have to design the system to work with your players. The system is the sum total of the procedures and the players that carry it out. If you can't change the players (and he can't), and the procedures aren't working with the players, then the procedures need to be changed. And if he won't change them, change the coach.
That's bull. You can't look at the product on the ice and see there is a problem? I know you can. Neither of us are physicians either, but we both can probably diagnose a compound fracture as a medical problem even if neither of us are competent to fix it.
I don't disagree with any of this. However, this team's failures don't necessarily mean that his system is ****. Then again, maybe these players ran his system about as well as can be expected, therefore this team's failures were evidence that his system is ****.
That is BBA's point.
I suppose the question is, does a system exist which would make this group of players consistently perform like an actual playoff team?
At this point I'll understand Peters getting canned because the organization needs a shakeup and you can't just wallow in bad experiences forever. But any expectation that we're going to get better results from a different coach, without significant additions in terms of player talent, needs to be tempered.
Probably no offensive system which will squeeze more goals out of this team, but I believe a defensive system exists which will reduce the number of bad goals against.
I don't disagree with any of this. However, this team's failures don't necessarily mean that his system is ****. Then again, maybe these players ran his system about as well as can be expected, therefore this team's failures were evidence that his system is ****.
That is BBA's point.
I don't disagree with any of this. However, this team's failures don't necessarily mean that his system is ****. Then again, maybe these players ran his system about as well as can be expected, therefore this team's failures were evidence that his system is ****.
That is BBA's point.
What? It's not bull. I didn't say the team doesn't have problems, of course it does, but I don't know enough to say if it's the system, and no matter WHO (forward and D) execute that system, it's still a problem or if the system is OK, and we don't have the talent to execute it.
To use your own analogy, sure, I can say that a compound fracture is a medical problem, the same way I can say the on ice performance of the Canes is a problem, but I can't look at the compound fracture and tell how someone got it, nor what the right treatment is, nor how to fix it.
But if his system requires the best player to work well, it is not a good system.
Raanta is 2018 Darling...UFA, history as a backup, playing elevated role in contract year and sporting a nice SV%.
I don't see him signing a 1 or 2 year deal...someone will offer him something like the 4X4 Darling got. Theoretically AZ would be wise to just keep him in-house if they are happy and he doesn't ask for the moon.
Not making any statement on his quality relative to Darling though...maybe he'll be worth 4X4...have not seen enough myself.
Having 2 new goalies next season could go terribly wrong.
Buy out Darling. Offer Cam a deal 1 year deal.
2) They hold onto the puck a long time when trying to come up the ice out of their zone.
I'm not sure it is conducive to generating offense / good scoring chances, but how much of that is the system vs. lack of talent? No idea.