WJC: Whats wrong with Canada?

[jj cale]

You are going to get used to it. Future czech junior teams have same deep D core but in forward group they are far far stronger than this team and its not even close. I though that silver generation is just flop, one strong year, but looking at future prospects it just never stops, there is not going to be a year without czech 1st rounder for at least 5 years in future and i am sure than at least 2 of those years will have MULTIPLE czech 1st rounders. At most 10 years from now czechs will be top3 nation in G and D part.

I think you are in for a letdown but I understand how you are over the moon right now, some calm reflection might be in order soon though once the high has worn off.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Well they took a team that would lose to Canada's "b team", and then despite a noticeable lack of coherence and chemistry between players, refused to practice.

There's also a fossil behind the bench who wouldn't even use the players he brought to their strengths.

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

poor coaching, and poor team selection, start at the top. This team couldn’t stay out the box.

There would good stretches and we could really pressure other teams but we just couldn’t easily generate great scoring changes.

 

[Boonk]

Organizational ineptitude, arrogance and complacency has killed the national junior team and its program. Management making terrible coaching selections, the coaching staff making terrible roster decisions, the players on the roster making terrible decisions on the ice have culminated into what you see here with two miserable tournaments. On home ice to boot. Embarassing.

Hockey Canada is an organization that leaves top 10 selections and skilled NCAA players at home in favour of junior grinders and role players who are plugs at this level. They have no accountability on and off the ice, whether its paying off SA victims and covering it up for years or the blatant nepotism that goes into running and selecting these teams for these tournaments. This sort of failure has been a long time coming. Nuke Hockey Canada off the face of the earth and start over.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Hockey Canada has been coasting on arrogance at all levels for a while now. A few superstars hold up what is otherwise an average mishmash of players up and down in the ranks.

Time to purge Hockey Canada of everything.

 

[Shane Diesel]

I'm sure Gary Bettman is at fault in some way.

 

[Jordan Belfort]

Stop ignoring college players would be a start. Michael Hage is right there with Hagens and Leonard for points but never even got a camp invite as it’s all predetermined - also only 6 PIMS…

Hockey Canada can’t handle the ego hit when players go to the NCAA

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Player pool is as good as ever. Let down by coaching and team management, which is usually an American hallmark.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I'm sure Gary Bettman is at fault in some way.

Or John Gibson

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Nothing, Czechs are just better. They showed it year before and confirmed it this year and Czechs didn´t even have their best players aside from Galvas.

Neirther did Canada. They win easily with the players that are in the NHL.

 

[Beerz]

Well..for starters they use the metric system.

 

[NyQuil]

It was a weird incarnation of Team Canada from beginning to end.

 

[Buttonwood]

Nothing in a big picture sense. It's more good to see that these tournaments have 5 or 6 legitimate threats to win.

For the tournament, in a more micro sense:
1) Best player already in the NHL
2) Roster construct was flawed (other top talent left at home, underutilized, and/or injured - Schaefer)
3) Offense/coach was tactically flawed (attempted way too many perimeter shots)
4) I think 2 & 3 snowballed on them, played frustrated, dumb, and selfish. Other teams are too good to get a free pass when you are playing bad hockey like that.

It's not a bad thing, other countries are getting smarter and maximizing what they have, Canada should do the same. No growth without pain.

 

[Moose Head]

I'm sure Gary Bettman is at fault in some way.

Didn’t force their teams to release the likes of Bedard and Celebrini

 

[EK47]

It was a weird incarnation of Team Canada from beginning to end.

Truly, having Canada eliminated in the quarters with their strongest squad in recent years feels weird. It felt like it would be one of those years where they just steamroll everything..

 

[NyQuil]

Truly, having Canada eliminated in the quarters with their strongest squad in recent years feels weird. It felt like it would be one of those years where they just steamroll everything..

You are a lot more optimistic about the strength of this squad than most people I talked with.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

We had the talent to build a junior version of Colorado Avalanche/Edmonton Oilers/Toronto Maple Leafs style team with super high end players at the top and talented role players to support them.

The coaching staff decided to build the team like the New York Islanders and we got an Islanders like result.

 

[Hallonbroder]

Lots of cope here as well I see. Someone said “hubris” earlier. I’d agree with that

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

You are a lot more optimistic about the strength of this squad than most people I talked with.

Yeah I don't see it , people were calling it out on day one. Not a very impressive lineup in terms of gamebreaking talent at least , most of it was on D.

 

[NyQuil]

Yeah I don't see it , people were calling it out on day one

Some people are ignoring this because it suits their agenda.

This team still could have medaled but they shot themselves in the foot with poor discipline, couldn’t score on their chances, had ridiculous coaching and played motivated and spirited competition that pounced on a clearly vulnerable Team Canada.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

We had the talent to build a junior version of Colorado Avalanche/Edmonton Oilers/Toronto Maple Leafs style team with super high end players at the top and talented role players to support them.

The coaching staff decided to build the team like the New York Islanders and we got an Islanders like result.

The coaching staff sucks for not being able to squeeze out more from the group though. Even with the group we had they should have played better and gotten to more high danger areas, It wasn't a strong group but look how well the Czechs were coached last night. Those kids were dialed in

 

[Muffin]

This crap about taking the "right" players is foolish too.
They left some game breaking talent home. Take the best players, they'll adjust to the role that is given. Ridiculous roster omissions this year.

You can argue about their roster choices but they didn't lose due to a lack of talent. You can't sit here and tell me they didn't have more talent on the team than Czechia

 

[Nineteen67]

They dominated the last half of the game, but they only know how to play fancy hockey. Need to get back to the roots and develop skilled players with a little more jam in their game. For example, rather than trying to put the puck between your legs on a one on one, drive to the net and maybe draw a penalty or put in a rebound.

Overall, they need to pick better players and certainly need a better coach that can control the discipline and leave the sports psychologists in the classroom. They create soft minds.

 

[elmaco]

Well..for starters they use the metric system.

Yeah doesn't make sense to use the same thing the whole world uses

 

[Beerz]

Yeah doesn't make sense to use the same thing the whole world uses

Correct.