These titles get tossed around a ton of HF, but what really differentiates them? What does a franchise player have that an elite player doesn't? Same question regarding generational vs franchise.
What's the difference between an Elite player vs Franchise player vs Generational player?
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I would say that a "franchise" player is the same as an elite player, but with added leadership qualities. It's the difference between prime Toews and Kane back in 2015.
The difference between a "franchise" player and a "generational" player is probably a bit harder to define. Consistency, media attention, team success, and maybe some extra talent will take a "franchise player" to a "generational" one. It's the difference between Nick Backstrom and Crosby.
Of course, this is all semantics and up to interpretation.
The difference between a "franchise" player and a "generational" player is probably a bit harder to define. Consistency, media attention, team success, and maybe some extra talent will take a "franchise player" to a "generational" one. It's the difference between Nick Backstrom and Crosby.
Of course, this is all semantics and up to interpretation.
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Generational - Widely regarded as arguably the best in the World for much of his career i.e. Crosby, Malkin, LeBron, Curry, Federer. Someone that people are lucky to have gotten to witness.
Franchise - Player that can help lead a franchise into deep runs as the best player, and may have an MVP level peak i.e. Kopitar, Bergeron, Kane, Pronger, Chara, Price, Stamkos, McDavid, Seguin, Toews, Keith, Kane, Eichel, Karlsson, Burns, Doughty.
Elite Player - encompasses generational and franchise players and also other players with high end ability to impact the game such as Pastrnak, Point, and W. Karlsson. You have to have a few years of being consistently elite to be a franchise player.
Franchise - Player that can help lead a franchise into deep runs as the best player, and may have an MVP level peak i.e. Kopitar, Bergeron, Kane, Pronger, Chara, Price, Stamkos, McDavid, Seguin, Toews, Keith, Kane, Eichel, Karlsson, Burns, Doughty.
Elite Player - encompasses generational and franchise players and also other players with high end ability to impact the game such as Pastrnak, Point, and W. Karlsson. You have to have a few years of being consistently elite to be a franchise player.
justafan22
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Elite player - Pastrnak, Monahan
Franchise Player - Eichel, Matthews, Barkov
Generational - Crosby, McDavid
Franchise Player - Eichel, Matthews, Barkov
Generational - Crosby, McDavid
Probably shouldn't, but I'll attempt to give some kind of definition...
Elite = one of the top 3-5 players at his position, consistently able to perform at the highest level and possesses a skill or skills that most players do not.
Franchise = Almost definitely elite, this is a guy that you build around. He is a leader on and off the ice, the face of the franchise. When a casual fan thinks of your team, it's basically impossible not to think of this player first and foremost.
Generational = this one is rare. This is a guy who would be considered easily the best player on any team in the league for the better part of a decade or longer.
Elite = one of the top 3-5 players at his position, consistently able to perform at the highest level and possesses a skill or skills that most players do not.
Franchise = Almost definitely elite, this is a guy that you build around. He is a leader on and off the ice, the face of the franchise. When a casual fan thinks of your team, it's basically impossible not to think of this player first and foremost.
Generational = this one is rare. This is a guy who would be considered easily the best player on any team in the league for the better part of a decade or longer.
BigBadBruins7708
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elite and franchise players have a couple years where they are in the best 2-3 in the league conversation, and are top 10-20 the other years.
a generational player is the best player in the league for 10 years with others being considered better only when the generational player misses time
a generational player is the best player in the league for 10 years with others being considered better only when the generational player misses time
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For me personally it would go:
Elite - any player who is a top line guy on all 31 teams.
Franchise - same but someone who could/should be a captain and face of an organization.
Generational - players that are at the top of the sport with a decent gap between anyone else for a sustained number of seasons.
Elite - any player who is a top line guy on all 31 teams.
Franchise - same but someone who could/should be a captain and face of an organization.
Generational - players that are at the top of the sport with a decent gap between anyone else for a sustained number of seasons.
DL44
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Elite: Kessel
Franchise: Malkin
Generational: Crosby
Not too many teams can boast about having one of each.
Franchise: Malkin
Generational: Crosby
Not too many teams can boast about having one of each.
Elite: Hossa
Franchise: Kane
Generational: Toews
Franchise: Kane
Generational: Toews
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Curry's career is trending in the same direction as Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Bill Russell, Magic Johnson, Shaquille O'Neal, Tim Duncan, Hakeem Olajuwon etc. He is a generational talent - the best point guard in history, the best shooter in history, back to back mvp, the first unanimous mvp in history, etc. There isn't much of an argument. While LeBron is more purely talented, both guys are the only guys since Jordan to be able to chase Jordan's legacy and actually, ostensibly surmount it someday.
Uh Oh, you labelled McSavior a franchise player and not a generational one. The Oiler mob won't be too happy with you..
But I agree nonetheless with this post.
I was going to write up a lengthy response, but your post doesn't deserve it in all honesty.
Similar to what I said in another thread, if you think Curry is the best PG in history (despite being a mediocre passer and terrible defender) you don't know anything about the sport.
Well this Oiler fan respects his opinion so don't count me in that crowd
Also, I'm more intrigued you labeling Curry as a generational player. I love Curry and GS and is my favourite player after Jordan so I won't disagree with you there. however if youre putting in Curry in that category, then I think Durant has a case too. Obviously the 3 point shooting is a no brainer but overall, Durant is I think the 2nd best player in the league right now right behind Lebron and a bit ahed of harden. Curry can't play defence when I watch him but maybe it is just me
Not a hell of a lot to be honest. 5-10 pts?
hell not much separates an elite player from a decent player.
The skill levels are pretty different. But the impact on the game is nominal. The entire focus and game plan of NHL hockey is to have decent players mitigate the high skill players via systems.
hell not much separates an elite player from a decent player.
The skill levels are pretty different. But the impact on the game is nominal. The entire focus and game plan of NHL hockey is to have decent players mitigate the high skill players via systems.
BigBadBruins7708
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Curry isnt even the best PG currently playing, nevermind all time.
Westbrook is better.
All time he is firmly behind Payton, Stockton, Iverson and Cousy.
He also is not the best shooter of all time...see Reggie Miller, Ray Allen
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Semantics
But imo...
Elite...consistently a top player at their position year in and year out.
Franchise...the level of player you could expect to win a cup with as your best player
Generational...a player so good that he could be one of the two or three who define a generation (Generation defined by every 10-15 years). Perennial Hart candidate if you will.
But imo...
Elite...consistently a top player at their position year in and year out.
Franchise...the level of player you could expect to win a cup with as your best player
Generational...a player so good that he could be one of the two or three who define a generation (Generation defined by every 10-15 years). Perennial Hart candidate if you will.
It also doesn't stand for baseball so change your avatar
Semantics
Obviously. Semantics means the meaning of words. It does not mean a minor quibble or disagreement.
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Elite: Term of relative competency. Top 10-20% at his position.
Franchise: Term of public perception. A player who is the public face of the team. Often, not always, elite ( eg Shane Doan).
Generational: Historical term. The clear best player of that era of the sport. Sometimes there are two, like Magic and Bird. Also applies to prospects who display talent that only comes along every decade or so.
Also lol at curry being the best pg of all time.
That was entirely because the GSW had one of the best regular seasons ever.
Curry isn't even the best player on his own team.
Franchise: Term of public perception. A player who is the public face of the team. Often, not always, elite ( eg Shane Doan).
Generational: Historical term. The clear best player of that era of the sport. Sometimes there are two, like Magic and Bird. Also applies to prospects who display talent that only comes along every decade or so.
Also lol at curry being the best pg of all time.
That was entirely because the GSW had one of the best regular seasons ever.
Curry isn't even the best player on his own team.
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On HFboards?
Elite player = Another teams franchise player
Franchise player = My elite players and the top players in the game who are not on my team
Generational = My Franchise player
Elite player = Another teams franchise player
Franchise player = My elite players and the top players in the game who are not on my team
Generational = My Franchise player
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