Whatever happened to Ducharme?

tazsub3

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From ''my source''.....Ducharme lost the room big time. If he sounded clueless in front of the media, he sounded the same way in the room. Lost the vets. Was slowly and surely becoming a joke.

That's what happened.
His problem, he sounds like an idiot, acts like an idiot and speak like an idiot, but what makes it worst, he thinks it is someone else's fault.
 
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While I will never defend Ducharme, I still can’t believe how a guy, who for years was considered one of the top coaching prospects by players and executives across the league, suddenly couldn’t even coach pee-wee.

I mean it can’t be that he just all of a sudden forgot how to coach.

The fall from grace was just so dramatic that there has to have been something else going on.

Maybe his favorite kind of weed was huh.......













Cocaine!
 

GrandBison

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From ''my source''.....Ducharme lost the room big time. If he sounded clueless in front of the media, he sounded the same way in the room. Lost the vets. Was slowly and surely becoming a joke.

That's what happened.
If you're a "too good and passive guy" as an assistant, it could be very hard to gain credibility as a rookie head coach in the same locker room.
 

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I think DD has too much of a great background not to find something in the NHL eventually, but i think he should have made the jump to AHL before NHL. I feel that he tried to manage NHL players the same way he would Juniors or that maybe he tried to implement his plan without taking into account that drastic changes need to be implemented gradually. There also didnt seem to be much room for players to be creative. Literally from one day to the next it became obvious that the players were confused.

Man was his interview cringe-worthy. I think he isnt a very good communicator and he made it look more whiny and worse than it needed to be. I dont understand how a conversation around "what are the habs aiming to do?" didnt happen, but if that IS the case, some of DD's comments are understandable. For instance, he couldn't win the Caufield debate no matter how he handled him. Put too much pressure on the kid and he fails, and if you figure he isnt ready and take him off, you fail. Let's not forget - DD had no team and its 2 top stars never played after the SCF. When you have a good team, the risk of putting a rookie in the lineup is lessened; when you have no team and want to win, however, you cant afford any risk at all, so a lot of coaches will choose the guy that plays exactly the same everyday over the rookie that may play 1 in 4 games how you want him to, no matter how talented.
let's also not forget that the team that made the run to the SCF had nothing to do with DD, infact I think we could have won (with some luck) if he had gotten long COVID (like during the Vegas matchup) and missed the TB final. His moves killed our momentum..
 

tazsub3

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If you're a "too good and passive guy" as an assistant, it could be very hard to gain credibility as a rookie head coach in the same locker room.
Yea do you really think it is that, I think the man is just very low quality coach , just hearing him talk and seeing the on ice decisions it is clear why no one would follow this man , shy / passive or not
 

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Yea do you really think it is that, I think the man is just very low quality coach , just hearing him talk and seeing the on ice decisions it is clear why no one would follow this man , shy / passive or not
How do you explain he was seen as a good young coach back then? Confidence is not only a players thing. The guy was a rookie coach dealing with a depleted roster and unhappy vocal veterans like Petry. Maybe it exposed his weaknesses but the situation was less than ideal for him to succeed.
 

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How do you explain he was seen as a good young coach back then? Confidence is not only a players thing. The guy was a rookie coach dealing with a depleted roster and unhappy vocal veterans like Petry. Maybe it exposed his weaknesses but the situation was less than ideal for him to succeed.
Ducharme was a novice that panicked when things went south so quick last season. It’s not hard to figure out why the team was quitting on him. He was desperately trying to save his job and making mistake after mistake in the process. It was just an ugly situation all together.
 

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Ducharme was a novice that panicked when things went south so quick last season. It’s not hard to figure out why the team was quitting on him. He was desperately trying to save his job and making mistake after mistake in the process. It was just an ugly situation all together.
Yeah, he was missing a veteran assistant à la Jacques Martin to calm the panic in the room, and it basically destroyed his coaching career.
 

tazsub3

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Ducharme was a novice that panicked when things went south so quick last season. It’s not hard to figure out why the team was quitting on him. He was desperately trying to save his job and making mistake after mistake in the process. It was just an ugly situation all together.
Simple he just dont have the talent to be a coach. He is just bad. And i say that with humility as i thought he was great signing when got him and bouchard
 

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Simple he just dont have the talent to be a coach. He is just bad. And i say that with humility as i thought he was great signing when got him and bouchard
I don't agree. I'm a good manager but in some projects I was put in a situation where it was impossible to show what I could do. It was simply not a good fit, internal expectations were probably set higher than what that team could provide, compare to Tourigny with the Yotes, or St-Louis who still has a free pass to let the guys play whatever game they want.
 
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tazsub3

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I don't agree. I'm a good manager but in some projects I was put in a situation where it was impossible to show what I could do. It was simply not a good fit, internal expectations were probably set higher than what that team could provide, compare to Tourigny with the Yotes, or St-Louis who still has a free pass to let the guys play whatever game they want.
I agree that in your case might have not have been the right time or being put in a situation to succeed but with dom i am not only judging what he did , the bad moves and all but also what he said about a year later . He just don’t get it , and that makes him a bad coach . Using that he tried to win as an excuse when he won 4 bloody games has nothing about being put in a bad situation and all to do with major incompetence
 

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Simple he just dont have the talent to be a coach. He is just bad. And i say that with humility as i thought he was great signing when got him and bouchard

He has had success everywhere he went and was recruited by Hockey Canada cause they saw something in the guy. He was one of the most promising rising coach in the country. Then got to the most heated hockey market in the league and they went to the Stanley Cup Finals with a team said to be much weaker than everybody they met. Then after one bad season he's shit? ppfffff Getoutofhere

Can I believe he crawled the pressure? Yes. But the talent is still there. But maybe he's got to go on a long walk in the desert.
 

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