OT: Whatcha Listening To?

[Edge]

Don't really know them outside of Touched but that was a great song. I think the problem with them in terms of commercial success etc. was they broke out during the era which to me started after the Rangers 97 ECF run and went until 2000. It wasn't only the dark ages for our hockey team but that was when some of the worst movies of the last 30 years came out (asteroid flicks, Avengers 1960s British TV series, Spawn, Batman and Robin, Lost In Space, Godzilla) were released and music was transitioning to Spice Girls, NSync, etc. If Vast had a breakthrough single around the same time as say Stabbing Westward, history would be very different.

They’ve gone a very different direction from that first album, definitely worth checking out their stuff.

 

[jacko23]

I love Oasis. Don't care what *****ebags they were, how derivative or simple their songs are, they just put together great songs. They're kind of like the Britpop Nirvana for me.

Oasis is the band that got me started playing guitar. Whats the Story Morning Glory was on CONSTANT rotation when it came out.

The best thing about Oasis is, and i dont know how much this is brought up ever, but a lot of their b-sides are better than the singles they are released with.

Their entire catalog is totally solid. Better than the Beatles? Nah. But still really f***ing good!

 

[McRanger]

I can’t believe Mazzy Star is still a thing.

Is there a guy or girl in their late 30s who didn’t make out to Fade Into You?

 

[jacko23]

I can’t believe Mazzy Star is still a thing.

Is there a guy or girl in their late 30s who didn’t make out to Fade Into You?

Me. I hated that song.

 

[McRanger]

Me. I hated that song.

I like to imagine you loudly announcing that you hate that song before storming out of the party leaving a puckered and broken hearted girl/guy in your angry wake.

It has sort of a John Hughes romanticism about it.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

With regards to the Byrds, my rule of thumb is anything Gene Clark wrote. And, for Miles Davis, Kind of Blue has to be there. In a Silent Way is also very good.

I haven’t really dug too deep into the Byrds, my way in was Graham Parsons. And I listened to Kind of Blue so much when I first heard it that I kind of burned myself out on it, I still go back from time to time but it hasn’t gotten back into regular rotation for me yet

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Nice list. Have you heard the Quicksand album that was released in late 2017 (Interiors)? I really enjoyed it. Saw them play a small metal bar in Brooklyn NYE 2014 into 2015. Great, great show.

Mazzy Star is one of those bands that seemed really popular during the "120 Minutes" era of MTV but not talked about much since. As a kid obviously they weren't fast/loud/testosterone enough for me but as a slightly older person in his 30s, I really love their music even the album they put out in 2014. Hope Sandoval and Miki Berenyi from Lush were like the two girls in the alternative scene who every teenager had a crush on. Such a different era lol.

The Stones; it's funny I've been playing them (late 70s-early 80s era) for background music while I work and I love Emotional Rescue, really like Tattoo You, but wasn't too crazy about Some Girls other than the singles. Was surprising.

When I talk to young kids about Ron Wood and they don't believe me that he is a great guitar player, I just say to look up The Faces. Great band.

I saw Quicksand when they were touring the release of Interiors and when I saw them I think it was still before it was even out, so I heard them play some songs from it but I think I just completely forgot to listen to it.

You’re right, Mazzy Star is in such a weird place where so many people know/like them and just never talk about them. And I was huge into Lush too, but my big 90s alt crush was Sarah Cracknell from Saint Etienne.

I really like most, if not all of Some Girls, but that could be because my stepdad played it over and over again super loud in my house for years. Love Ron Wood and the Faces too, Silicon Grown is one of my all time favorite albums

 

[SlickHands]

Oasis is the band that got me started playing guitar. Whats the Story Morning Glory was on CONSTANT rotation when it came out.

The best thing about Oasis is, and i dont know how much this is brought up ever, but a lot of their b-sides are better than the singles they are released with.

Their entire catalog is totally solid. Better than the Beatles? Nah. But still really ****ing good!

I always felt like most of their catalog after Morning Glory was pretty mediocre, at best. Even within the context of Psych-rock revivalists or Brit pop (like Blur), I don't think they're terribly interesting. There are about a dozen American bands from the same era that made better music that couldn't sniff the charts because they didn't have the benefit of coming up through the insular self-mythologizing British music culture (like the Brian Jonestown Massacre or any of the Elephant 6 bands)...

Plus, the Gallagher brothers are just terrible human beings.

 

[aufheben]

Oasis is the band that got me started playing guitar. Whats the Story Morning Glory was on CONSTANT rotation when it came out.

The best thing about Oasis is, and i dont know how much this is brought up ever, but a lot of their b-sides are better than the singles they are released with.

Their entire catalog is totally solid. Better than the Beatles? Nah. But still really ****ing good!

Shit I mean I was playing
Wonderwall just the other day, it’s a great song for capo practice.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I haven’t really dug too deep into the Byrds, my way in was Graham Parsons. And I listened to Kind of Blue so much when I first heard it that I kind of burned myself out on it, I still go back from time to time but it hasn’t gotten back into regular rotation for me yet

Don’t get me wrong, I like Sweetheart, especially Hickory Wind. I’m a fan of Parsons, especially in the Flying Burrito Brothers. But a Gene Clark was the best part of the Byrds. He was a great songwriter.

As for Miles, Bitches Brew is amazing. But, Kind of Blue to me is the definitive jazz record.

 

[aufheben]

I always felt like most of their catalog after Morning Glory was pretty mediocre, at best. Even within the context of Psych-rock revivalists or Brit pop (like Blur), I don't think they're terribly interesting. There are about a dozen American bands from the same era that made better music that couldn't sniff the charts because they didn't have the benefit of coming up through the insular self-mythologizing British music culture (like the Brian Jonestown Massacre or any of the Elephant 6 bands)...

Plus, the Gallagher brothers are just terrible human beings.

Dude. Between 2009-2012 I listened to literally NOTHING except the Brian Jonestown Massacre. Nothing.

My friends always hung at my place to drink. They wanted to f***ing. kill. me.

See my username for proof lol.

 

[Baby Punisher]

The last 2 God Smack albums and newest AFI album have been in heavy rotation lately.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I love Oasis. Don't care what *****ebags they were, how derivative or simple their songs are, they just put together great songs. They're kind of like the Britpop Nirvana for me.

So apt. . The 2012 reissue encompasses this perfectly. The first disc is the Remastered From Original Tape, which for Kevin Shields means making slight tweaks to sounds that literally can't be heard by the human ear, and the second disc is Mastered From Original 1/2 Inch Analogue Tapes (which is fantastic btw). What gets lost in all the Loveless mythos and the band's last 20 years of delays, is that 1988's Isn't Anything is in it's own right an incredible album.

You get huge points for these. If you like Mazzy Star and shoegaze, or anything in the Lo-Fi/Ambient/Post-Rock vicinity, Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill (2008) by Grouper is a gem. It's like the Blair-Witch-bad-acid-trip version of Mazzy Star.

Oasis for me is like, the perfect rock and roll band. In my head they pretty much encapsulated and put a hat on all of rock that came before them. I’m not even mad about them just fully lifting riffs because honestly, who doesn’t? They at least give them their own spin and make them part of a different whole. If you haven’t seen the documentary that came out last year or the year before (Supersonic), I cant recommend it enough.

I’m kind of kicking myself for not seeing MBV when they just played over the summer, but I justified it to myself at the time by saying I didn’t want to pay $100+ to lose my hearing for a few days.
25 Reasons to Have Sex to My Bloody Valentine’s Loveless Today, Its 25th Birthday
I saw someone on something post this article back when it was written and I thought it was really funny but then after a few days I started to realize just how broad of an album it really is, it can be the soundtrack to literately anything.

I’ve always been sort of into the B-52’s but like 5-7 years ago I was at a small party and someone put on Strobe Light and everyone got quiet and two of my friends put on like a full call and response routine to it and I couldn’t get the song out of my head and I haven’t looked back. And I got real heavy into BritPop and just late 80’s/90’s British alt rock when I was kind of transitioning out of being all about punk and hardcore, it kind of has the same “we’re just going to do this” mentality behind it, but what was more appealing to me was that there was way more variety in terms of how bands sounded and they all dressed cooler. Similar to the Oasis documentary, Upside Down: The Creation Records Story is great and shows how ridiculous that whole time period is. And Grouper sounds great, I wrote it down so I don’t forget to listen to it soon

 

[aufheben]

Oasis for me is like, the perfect rock and roll band. In my head they pretty much encapsulated and put a hat on all of rock that came before them. I’m not even mad about them just fully lifting riffs because honestly, who doesn’t? They at least give them their own spin and make them part of a different whole. If you haven’t seen the documentary that came out last year or the year before (Supersonic), I cant recommend it enough.

I’m kind of kicking myself for not seeing MBV when they just played over the summer, but I justified it to myself at the time by saying I didn’t want to pay $100+ to lose my hearing for a few days.
25 Reasons to Have Sex to My Bloody Valentine’s Loveless Today, Its 25th Birthday
I saw someone on something post this article back when it was written and I thought it was really funny but then after a few days I started to realize just how broad of an album it really is, it can be the soundtrack to literately anything.

I’ve always been sort of into the B-52’s but like 5-7 years ago I was at a small party and someone put on Strobe Light and everyone got quiet and two of my friends put on like a full call and response routine to it and I couldn’t get the song out of my head and I haven’t looked back. And I got real heavy into BritPop and just late 80’s/90’s British alt rock when I was kind of transitioning out of being all about punk and hardcore, it kind of has the same “we’re just going to do this” mentality behind it, but what was more appealing to me was that there was way more variety in terms of how bands sounded and they all dressed cooler. Similar to the Oasis documentary, Upside Down: The Creation Records Story is great and shows how ridiculous that whole time period is. And Grouper sounds great, I wrote it down so I don’t forget to listen to it soon

Hah I did see Supersonic. I have an insatiable appetite for new things to watch. Speaking of the Jonestown Massacre, Dig! is the great rockumentary. Anton and that revolving door of psychotics released three LPs in 1996, on a diet of apparently nothing more than booze and pills.

Did not know about the Creation doc, that’s interesting. I watched a doc about K Records yesterday; trying to find this doc about the Minutemen.

Edit: I saw My Bloody Valentine at Roseland Ballroom in 2008. It was loud.

 

[Edge]

The Rolling Stones: I like every up to Tattoo You, the late 60’s/early 70’s stuff is untouchable, if anyone who’s into the Stones hasn’t heard the extra stuff that didn’t make it on Exile On Main Street (the extra stuff on the deluxe edition that came out sort of recently), it’s definitely a must listen

George Harrison - All Things Must Pass
Here’s my hot take: this is by far the best Beatles or Beatles related record

I really liked the extra material on Exile on Main Street. Truth be told, at first I was annoyed at myself for wanting it --- there are a few bands I will double and triple dip on, and The Stones are one of them. But I came away pleasantly surprised and felt justified with my purchase.

As for George Harrison, he's personally always been my favorite Beatle, post-split. Paul's work often drifted too bubbly for my tastes, and John's could go a little too far the other direction for my taste. But I felt Harrison often split the difference nicely.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

I really liked the extra material on Exile on Main Street. Truth be told, at first I was annoyed at myself for wanting it --- there are a few bands I will double and triple dip on, and The Stones are one of them. But I came away pleasantly surprised and felt justified with my purchase.

As for George Harrison, he's personally always been my favorite Beatle, post-split. Paul's work often drifted too bubbly for my tastes, and John's could go a little too far the other direction for my taste. But I felt Harrison often split the difference nicely.

I hate rebuying things too, and I downloaded it first and liked it so much I went out and bought it after.

George is my favorite too. John and Paul are the bottom two for me, but I went and saw Paul at MSG last time he came around and I was a little nervous at first because it was a decent chunk of money for nosebleeds and my friend talked me into it, and I had a blast

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I can’t believe Mazzy Star is still a thing.

Is there a guy or girl in their late 30s who didn’t make out to Fade Into You?

I never did lol. Was too young. They were one of those bands that no one I grew up with was really into, just remember them from 120 Minutes, Alternative Nation, etc. The second album with that track came out during the 93-94 season and that was their peak. The album after didn't do much commercially and the landscape had changed and then they went on hiatus until this decade.

Big bands that people were into in school were a lot of alternative rock like RHCP, Nirvana, Soundgarden and then metal like Metallica, Megadeth, Pantera, Sepultura, Slayer with a little hip hop like Nas, Cypress Youth. Some of my friends were really into Zappa and The Might Be Giants.

Stuff like Mazzy Star, Lush, Jeff Buckley, Pavement, Blur I just kind of found on my own later when buying CDs was cheaper and easier.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I saw Quicksand when they were touring the release of Interiors and when I saw them I think it was still before it was even out, so I heard them play some songs from it but I think I just completely forgot to listen to it.

You’re right, Mazzy Star is in such a weird place where so many people know/like them and just never talk about them. And I was huge into Lush too, but my big 90s alt crush was Sarah Cracknell from Saint Etienne.

I really like most, if not all of Some Girls, but that could be because my stepdad played it over and over again super loud in my house for years. Love Ron Wood and the Faces too, Silicon Grown is one of my all time favorite albums

Quicksand have been a three piece for about a year and change now. The other guitar player, let's just say he has some issues.

I'd love to meet another Mazzy Star fan. Never have whether it's in NY, Cali, or any of my other journeys. As I just mentioned in another post their timeline was release an underground hit in the early 90s, second album with Fade Into You during the 93-94 period, and then release a third album in late 96 in the post Cobain era when so much had changed in music. Their next album would be 18 years later. Hope Sandoval is an interesting person, I wouldn't call her a hermit, but she is very private, moved to London for a large chunk of time etc.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I really liked the extra material on Exile on Main Street. Truth be told, at first I was annoyed at myself for wanting it --- there are a few bands I will double and triple dip on, and The Stones are one of them. But I came away pleasantly surprised and felt justified with my purchase.

As for George Harrison, he's personally always been my favorite Beatle, post-split. Paul's work often drifted too bubbly for my tastes, and John's could go a little too far the other direction for my taste. But I felt Harrison often split the difference nicely.

My view on all four Beatles seems to be constantly evolving. But, that’s because more information continues to come out. As a kid, you get sucked in by the bubbly picture that was marketed. But, later, you see the warts. At the end of the day, you realize they’re all flawed humans who simply outgrew what they had created. There’s a lot of misconceptions about the Beatles that are still being perpetuated.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

Quicksand have been a three piece for about a year and change now. The other guitar player, let's just say he has some issues.

I'd love to meet another Mazzy Star fan. Never have whether it's in NY, Cali, or any of my other journeys. As I just mentioned in another post their timeline was release an underground hit in the early 90s, second album with Fade Into You during the 93-94 period, and then release a third album in late 96 in the post Cobain era when so much had changed in music. Their next album would be 18 years later. Hope Sandoval is an interesting person, I wouldn't call her a hermit, but she is very private, moved to London for a large chunk of time etc.

I saw them like a week after they kicked him out, my boss knows some of them or some of their friends or something and came and told me all about it when it happened, then he was like “if I go see them now, I’ll have seen them as a 5 piece, a 4 piece, and a 3 piece.”

And with Mazzy Star I feel like I’m always ending up at someone’s house or in their car and they’re playing Mazzy Star or I’ll see someone post a video or picture or something on some sort of social media and we both end up going “you like them? I had no idea!” Then it turns into a short conversation about how Hope Sandoval is some sort of real life angel and then we both forget that each other likes Mazzy Star

 

[egelband]

As for George Harrison, he's personally always been my favorite Beatle, post-split. Paul's work often drifted too bubbly for my tastes, and John's could go a little too far the other direction for my taste. But I felt Harrison often split the difference nicely.

Me too. I like McCartney and Lennon too, of course. But Harrison is my favorite, not just the music but the whole package. He had a lot of courage and poise, is my impression.

 

[Edge]

My view on all four Beatles seems to be constantly evolving. But, that’s because more information continues to come out. As a kid, you get sucked in by the bubbly picture that was marketed. But, later, you see the warts. At the end of the day, you realize they’re all flawed humans who simply outgrew what they had created. There’s a lot of misconceptions about the Beatles that are still being perpetuated.

I respect the Beatles, and love their work, but there’s definitely a sense of romanticism that surrounds them — especially from boomers. Shaking that narrative and having a balanced discussion can be a real challenge.

However, one of my fondest memories was working on a project when Love opened in Vegas. Had the chance to meet George Martin multiple times and got to a point where I could have more than surface conversations without coming off as too much of a fan boy. In a nutshell his view was that it was inevitable they’d break up, it was just a matter of what factors would bring the inevitable to the forefront.

 

[bobbop]

The Supremes.

Now and forever

 

[eco's bones]

Me and Chopin's Nocturnes had some "profound" nights in college, that's for sure, . Beautiful stuff.

I love Oasis. Don't care what *****ebags they were, how derivative or simple their songs are, they just put together great songs. They're kind of like the Britpop Nirvana for me.
So apt. . The 2012 reissue encompasses this perfectly. The first disc is the Remastered From Original Tape, which for Kevin Shields means making slight tweaks to sounds that literally can't be heard by the human ear, and the second disc is Mastered From Original 1/2 Inch Analogue Tapes (which is fantastic btw). What gets lost in all the Loveless mythos and the band's last 20 years of delays, is that 1988's Isn't Anything is in it's own right an incredible album.
You get huge points for these. If you like Mazzy Star and shoegaze, or anything in the Lo-Fi/Ambient/Post-Rock vicinity, Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill (2008) by Grouper is a gem. It's like the Blair-Witch-bad-acid-trip version of Mazzy Star.

Hüsker Dü released "Eight Miles High" as a single two months before their legendary concept double-album Zen Arcade (1984), almost as a sort of key for unlocking the ideas and context layered beneath their heavily-distorted, breakneck sound. Also an example of the 1960s influence on the Hardcore/Indie scene during the 1980s.

My last ten:

1. "Repeater" - Fugazi (Repeater)
   
2. "Filler" - Minor Threat (Complete Discography)
   
3. "Let It Slide" - Mudhoney (Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge)
   
4. "Hurdy Gurdy Man" - Butthole Surfers (The Hole Truth... And Nothing Butt)*
   
5. "Go For It" - Stiff Little Fingers (Go For It)
   
6. "Nervous Breakdown" - Black Flag (The First Four Years)
   
7. "Makes No Sense At All" - Hüsker Dü (Flip Your Wig)
   
8. "Axemen" - Heavens To Betsy (Calculated)
   
9. "Sing Swan Song" - Can (Ege Bamyasi)
   
10. "Dig Me Out" - Sleater-Kinney (Dig Me Out)

*Just a grotesque, hilarious, and amazing cover. Another example of the 1960s-Hardcore relation.

Some good choices in your last 10. The Minor Threat/Fugazi thing, SLF and Husker Du. Sleater Kinnery, Black Flag and Butthole Surfers.

 

[eco's bones]

The Velvet Underground have always been the Beatles for me. The latter just never really hooked me. Like, I don't know, they're trippin' balls with sitars and writing about tangerine trees (still awesome), and then in the same year Lou Reed and John Cale are releasing songs like "Venus In Furs" and "Heroin".

Not to put the Stones or the Beatles down but if I had to choose favorite bands from the 60's it's the Velvets, Doors, Hendrix, Who and the Kinks for me.