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Speculation: What Went Wrong?

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BigGoalBrad said:
Watching our games and seeing their terrible play from game 1?

These guys are supposed to be part of the "leadership core / Bruins culture" and all that and one is playing for his first UFA deal. I'd take guys from Providence over them they've been that bad. Has to have something to do with their off season conditioning or lack there of.
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So terrible play = taking the summer off? OK then.
 
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Ladyfan said:
To me one of the most shocking things is how bad the PK has been. It feels like for years (no matter what else is going on) the PK has been excellent.

Maybe it is just my perception but not having a good PK is so anti Bruins.
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I looked at past season stats and ironically the last time the Bruins completed a season outside of the top 10 in penalty killing was the 2018-2019 season when they finished with a 79.9%. (16th)
 
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Ladyfan said:
To me one of the most shocking things is how bad the PK has been. It feels like for years (no matter what else is going on) the PK has been excellent.

Maybe it is just my perception but not having a good PK is so anti Bruins.
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To me is the entire play of this defence group that is shocking how bad they re this year, and we ve got a new D coach, is it the change?
 
The master plan by Donny boy is almost complete.

No other GM has ever won the Stanley Cup with the roster full of 3rd and 4th liners and bottom pairs. He just needs to ship out Pasta and McAvoy for some washed up role players (Stempniak Stafford, Maroon, Beleskey, Hathaway or Mike Reilly type) and conditional 5th round picks, healthy scratch indefinitely Hampus Lindholm, let Marchand to retire and we are all in!!! :D:D:D


Sweeney's trade history

2024
Lettieri, 4th for Lauko, 4th
Korpisalo, Kastelic, 1st for Ullmark
McIsaac for C. Hall
Maroon for Toporowski, 6th
Peeke for Zboril, 3rd

2023
Mitchell for T.Hall, Foligno
Walsh for Bowers
Bertuzzi for 1st, 4th
Bowers for Kinkaid
Hathaway for Smith, 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Orlov for 5th

2022
DiPietro, Myrenberg for Studnicka
Zacha for Haula
Future considerations for Lyle
Brown, 7th for Senyshyn, 5th
Lindholm, Curran for Moore, Vaakanainen, 1st, 2nd, 2nd

2021
3rd for Vladar
T.Hall, Lazar for Bjork, 2nd
Reilly for 3rd

2020
Ritchie for Heinen
Kase for Backes, Andersson, 1st

2019
Johansson for 2nd, 4th
Coyle for Donato, 5th
Carey for Goloubef

2018
Kampfer, 4th, 7th for McQuaid
Wingels for 5th
Nash for Spooner, Beleskey, Lindgren, 1st, 7th
3rd for Vatrano
Holden for O`Gara, 3rd

2017
Stafford for 6th

2016
Liles for Camara, 3rd, 5th
Stempniak for 2nd, 4th

2015
Hayes for Smith, Savard
Kuraly, 1st for Jones
Jones, Miller, 1st for Lucic
1st, 2nd, 2nd for Hamilton
2016 6th for Soderberg
 
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At the deadline, they should explore trading Coyle, Frederic, E. Lindholm, Zacha, Carlo, and H. Lindholm
Will get the most for them at the deadline, and maybe I'm wrong, but some of those may get teams in a bidding war and up their value. While most are not performing this year, some of them have had very good years, and a GM maybe willing to overpay hoping to get that good player.
 
whatsbruin said:
At the deadline, they should explore trading Coyle, Frederic, E. Lindholm, Zacha, Carlo, and H. Lindholm
Will get the most for them at the deadline, and maybe I'm wrong, but some of those may get teams in a bidding war and up their value. While most are not performing this year, some of them have had very good years, and a GM maybe willing to overpay hoping to get that good player.
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Elias Lindholm is un-tradable unless you eat 50% of the cap hit and add something of real value like a first round pick.
 
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Dennis Bonvie said:
I don't think the discussion on the Podcast was about standing pat and trying to win the Cup. Simply let's see what we have before making panic moves that may cost the team down the road. Whatever the Bruins do at the trade deadline won't make them true Cup contenders anyway.
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If that's the case then I'm not unsympathetic to that point of view, but I'd have to ask, in terms of seeing what we have, how much more do we need to see? It's February, we have seen, for 4 months, and much of what we've seen is not good. And elsewhere in the league moves are being made left, right and center. GMs are getting on with things.

I would certainly like to see how the defense looks with Lindholm back. But I wouldn't do nothing in the meantime for that reason alone. Chances are someone else will then just get injured anyway. I'm against panic moves, but I'm equally against being too conservative. The sooner a re-tool starts, the sooner it might start to bear fruit. The Bruins don't need a fire sale, and Sweeney would never do that anyway. But IMO the time to start seriously considering and ideally making some smart moves is now, or else they simply risk getting left behind.
 
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Wanna hear a crazy stat?

I just looked up the Bruins Expected Goals Against per 60 from last year and it was 3.03.

Then I looked up the Bruins Expected Goals Against per 60 for this year and it's actually better, it's 2.93.

So in other words the stat is saying the Bruins team defense has been better this year than last year. (It's also saying Bruins goalies should have allowed ~17 less goals this year.)

FYI: For those who don't know, Expected Goals Against takes the goaltending out of the equation and just looks at shots against, scoring chances against, high danger chances against... and that's xGA/60 in 'all situations' so it includes our lousy PK this year.
 
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PlayMakers said:
Wanna hear a crazy stat?

I just looked up the Bruins Expected Goals Against per 60 from last year and it was 3.03.

Then I looked up the Bruins Expected Goals Against per 60 for this year and it's actually better, it's 2.93.


For those who don't know, Expected Goals Against takes the goaltending out of the equation and just looks at shots against, scoring chances against, high danger chances against... and that's xGA/60 in 'all situations' so it includes our lousy PK this year.
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That makes the stat look flawed.

I haven’t seen a Bruins defense play this flummoxed since Kasper was the coach.
 
Mr. Make-Believe said:
That makes the stat look flawed.

I haven’t seen a Bruins defense play this flummoxed since Kasper was the coach.
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It does, but it also makes you wonder how much of our perception is influenced by good goaltending.

Over the summer, lots of media and analysts were saying that the Bruins defense was actually bad last year, and that it was being propped up by their goalies.
 
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