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What Went Wrong With The Canucks?

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I see a thread about the Rangers but not one about the Canucks (a mod can merge this thread with an existing one if there is one).

They had a very good season last season. Yes, they probably overachieved and they had a high PDO, but I don't think their downfall can be attributed to regression to the norm alone.

It seems the locker room was a mess for much of the season. I don't think Pettersson's play improved a great deal after the Miller trade.

Where do they go from here?
 
GlitchMarner said:
I see a thread about the Rangers but not one about the Canucks (a mod can merge this thread with an existing one if there is one).

They had a very good season last season. Yes, they probably overachieved and they had a high PDO, but I don't think their downfall can be attributed to regression to the norm alone.

It seems the locker room was a mess for much of the season. I don't think Pettersson's play improved a great deal after the Miller trade.

Where do they go from here?
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Last year they were an incredibly hard working team with a vezina caliber goalie, a Norris trophy dman and two 100 point (approximately) centers.

This year their vezina goalie has struggled with injuries, their Norris winning dman has struggled with injuries down the stretch. One of those centers couldn't get along with the team and took a leave of absence and was eventually traded. The other center is still looking for his game (and/or recovering dealing with a nagging knee issue, who knows). In amongst all this turmoil the hard working plumbers (ie the rest of the team) lost their way.

Last month or so the plumbers seem to be finding their game again as the dust settles. A healthy team with a noticeably improved EP (if that happens) and one or two offseason additions should see a more productive team than this year, but probably not up to last year's success.

Defense is rounding into shape pretty well. A healthy Demko and Lankinen can hold down the fort. Need to focus on that offense.
 
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They started the year without their star goalie and with a blueline of Hughes, Hronek, and a bunch of non descript TV henchman. Then you throw in a couple diva star forwards with a boy band mentality and this is what you get.

Didn't find their drop off all that surprising honestly.
 
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Could list half a dozen things right off the bat that come to mind.

- Early on they got outworked a bunch of times on home ice. Typical for a team that were all in start to finish the previous year. It happens, but you can't get those points back if things go wrong later as they did.

- EP had a bad year and when you best forward isn't playing like a star, it affects others as well.

- They won't have a single forward with 60 points this season. Hardly anyone really stood out, Sherwood might've been the only one who broke his career highs. And he's still just a 40 point guy.

- Injuries mostly to their better players, obviously Hughes missed some games or was playing hurt and whenever you're missing your best player, especially in a year like this, it hurts for sure. Joshua struggled to get going after dealing with cancer, and while he may be a bottom 6 guy he was one of the bright spots last year on their 3rd line that was one of the best in the League. Hronek and Miller were out for a stretch, Chytil obviously went down. EP's gonna end with 64 games.

- The Miller/EP drama was a lot of noise and probably did serve as a distraction at times.

- Demko was solid last year but they didn't get that type of goaltending this year. Lankinen did what he could, but once that road magic wore off from the first few months he's just been average I guess. Both guys are gonna end up around 90%, give or take.
 
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Although on the surface the mayor isn't entirely wrong, that's pretty boneheaded to publicly question the owner of the team like that. Comes off as the type of simpleton you hear at the bar with really obnoxious takes.
 
Pretty much everything.

Petey with a dreadful season
Unbelievable drama between our two top centres
Demko injured once again
Having a terrible defence for half this season, mostly due to injuries

It’s just been a cluster f***, but I think they could bounce back next season.

Just need a good off-season
 
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GlitchMarner said:
I see a thread about the Rangers but not one about the Canucks (a mod can merge this thread with an existing one if there is one).

They had a very good season last season. Yes, they probably overachieved and they had a high PDO, but I don't think their downfall can be attributed to regression to the norm alone.

It seems the locker room was a mess for much of the season. I don't think Pettersson's play improved a great deal after the Miller trade.

Where do they go from here?
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Seems pretty straight forward?

Hughes missed time
Hronek missed time
Petterssen was trash
JT Miller rift and subsequent trade
Demko beyond trash
 
Everyone will point to drama and injuries but I will point directly at management.

A week before training camp they were looking prepared to run back an injured Demko and a unproven Silovs.

SOMEHOW the goalie gods are still paying back their debts from the 2000s and we plucked Lankinen out of thin freaking air. I forget the stat but he broke a NHL record for road wins to start a season.

SOMEHOW one of our biggest offseason failures turned into pure gold as Lankinen singlehandidly kept us afloat.

Then part two. We screwed over every single waivers eligible player ALL SEASON LONG to save every penny we could for the defenseman we've long since needed.

At one point they kind of had a plan and we're working on it.

But without that defenseman, and the rest 3 thru 8 being garbage, the losing starts. Lankinen can only do so much.

Then once you lose, the drama roars its ugly head.

So we ship the malcontent, including a better pick than our own for Marcus Pettersson. Finally fix the defense but kill the offense to do so, again (see horvat, bo).

But OMG it could have been worse..

There were rumors the Canucks were heavy after Cody Ceci.

Mpetey probably wasnt available yet and management was obviously desperate for fixes. Luckily Mpetey has been telegraphed for a year and was always plan A. But what did the wait to aquire cost? Everything.

Long story short they failed to address the defense and goaltending in a timely manner and they will pay the price literally everywhere else in the org. They took 3m and a retention spot to the grave after screwing every rookie.

Theres an alternate universe where Silovs 2-6-1 just holds the fort, Demko rushes back and we trade for Cody Ceci. In fact that reality was pretty close to happening but we sacrificed Mika Noronen in the 2000s so Lankinen saved us.
 
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Grifter3511 said:
Last year they were an incredibly hard working team with a vezina caliber goalie, a Norris trophy dman and two 100 point (approximately) centers.

This year their vezina goalie has struggled with injuries, their Norris winning dman has struggled with injuries down the stretch. One of those centers couldn't get along with the team and took a leave of absence and was eventually traded. The other center is still looking for his game (and/or recovering dealing with a nagging knee issue, who knows). In amongst all this turmoil the hard working plumbers (ie the rest of the team) lost their way.

Last month or so the plumbers seem to be finding their game again as the dust settles. A healthy team with a noticeably improved EP (if that happens) and one or two offseason additions should see a more productive team than this year, but probably not up to last year's success.

Defense is rounding into shape pretty well. A healthy Demko and Lankinen can hold down the fort. Need to focus on that offense.
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Don't forget their top winger in Boeser also got injured dealing with a concussion, which is life changing itself.
 
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Last year canucks had no injuries other than Demko.
This year everyone that was counted upon was injured or played through injuries.

Odd that the OP compared Vancouver to NYR.
Completely different scenario btw them, this team played hard with an honest effort each night.
They hedged their bets and shipped out the malcontent to end up with the top4 Dmen they needed in years to come and signed him long term. but basically stood pat and kept Boeser as a self rental.
the future is not that bad, just a cursed year.
NYR brought in a that top center for futures in a year where everyone else but their goalie wilted.
 
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It would be easier to talk about what didn't go wrong for the Canucks this year.

It was an absolute gong show and a reminder how delicate an nhl roster can be.
 
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Basically. But a few stand out moments…

  • Demko not being healthy
  • Pettersson and Miller’s issues consuming everything and threw the entire team off the rails.
  • Bad choices on D in the summer for depth
  • Lacked serious scoring depth
  • Should have moved Boeser at the deadline, now they’ll lose him for very little if anything at all for his rights
  • Possibly should have moved on from Pettersson as well.
  • JR is still running the show and not letting Allvin do his job autonomously.
 
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